Lots of threads going on, but none dealing from this perspective, so let me dig in and if no one chimes in i will give my two cents worth. For starters, let me say, i suspect the RCSC board could give two shits what any of us think. If they thought for one minute what any of us are saying or feeling mattered or had any remorse about Karen, we wouldn't be looking at the ridiculous agenda they shoved in our face. My guess is they simply see us as a hemorrhoid that will eventually go away. They may be right, they may be wrong, we'll see. If they act like the arrogant we-don't-care-bunch we've seen of late, it will only get worse. Pretending that Karen's sins were so horrible that if they could just tell us, we'd be on their side is foolishness. If they think that, they are wrong. There have been ongoing gatherings in preparation for Monday's meeting. Sorry if i have overstepped my bounds by saying that but if Sun City is to move forward it can't/won't be by being exclusionary. Sun City was built by including everyone. We have to believe that differing opinions are always welcome. To be clear, i don't mean hit and run crap, i mean lending your voice and being an active participant in our governance. I guess that is what is troubling me. Everything to date has rendered it to us versus them. Our fault? Their fault? That answer is easy, yes. When things go sideways, everyone should recognize what is happening and why. I haven't made any bones about this; firing Karen was pure silliness. It was then and it still is today. Unfortunately that is yesterday's news. With that said, what would be the best that could come out of where we are right now and more importantly from the coming Monday shitshow?