Are we rounding the corner or is it an oval track??

Discussion in 'Sun City General Discussions' started by aggie, Nov 10, 2020.

  1. aggie

    aggie Well-Known Member

    In another thread Pegmih asked if it was normal to feel paranoid at this point in COVID pandemic. She was concerned about shopping at stores. We have availed ourselves of grocery delivery to our doorstep from Walmart & Safeway for the past 7 months.

    We tried the senior shopping hours and have found they aren't enforced. Quite a few of the younger and even some of the senior shoppers don't wear masks which is required by Maricopa County mandate. The stores will not confront those refusing to wear a mask.

    So, we will continue to place our orders online, have delivery to our doorstep, wipe everything down with alcohol before putting away and the convenience is well worth the small delivery charge. I don't know when I'll feel comfortable shopping in a crowd and I don't think it's a case of being paranoid.
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  2. I am very concerned about Covid as I have many of the checkpoints (heart, diabetes, etc.) and where to shop. I agree with pegmihn and shop at Sprouts on T-Bird as I have noticed over the past several months the shoppers wear masks (even the children) and social distance when able (some Unintentional back ups in the narrower aisles). It appears to be a better “class” of people who take this virus seriously. I have also shopped at different times to see when less crowded. I have also done the same with Safeway on Olive.

    I would like to use Fairway rec center but learned none of the employees have been tested for Covid (the cotton swab in the nose thing). This worries me as front desk people change daily and I have no immune system. The weather has change so I can walk around the golf course or around the ‘hood.
  3. aggie

    aggie Well-Known Member

    This is just a reminder that the requirement to renew your AZ driver's license has been modified. If your license was set to expire between March 20, 2020 & December 31, 2020, you now have a one year extension of the expiration date. Your driver's license will show the extension on the AZDOT electronic records if there is ever a need to have it looked up. This was done to alleviate lines at the MVD to help stop COVID transmission. Yay!!
  4. Emily Litella

    Emily Litella Well-Known Member

    Peg, I like what aggie has been doing. Maybe do the same.

    Except for work travel and purchasing essential meds, supplies and food, we go nowhere else. On the weekend, I will hike and bird watch. That's it. I don't even go to the rec centers anymore unless I have to. The pools and spas will be there when this is over.

    The good news is that this is not going to last forever. Vaccines and medical expert teams are being assembled. Until then, the best bet is probably to quarantine as much as possible and Mask, Mask, Mask.

    Follow the scientists and listen to Dr. Fauci and Dr. Gupta. My educational background was in biology and chemistry. I believe in facts, reproducible research data and medical science.

    It also helps when out in public to be patient, polite, kind and smile behind the mask. People are frightened. The least we can do is be calm and nice to each other.

    This is just my opinion.
  5. IndependentCynic

    IndependentCynic Active Member

    I stay home as much as practical. When I need to go out I think I can be responsible and protect myself by wearing my mask (correctly -- ie, no below the nose stuff, etc.), avoiding crowds/social distancing, hand-washing and properly sanitizing things I bring home (and things they/I may have touched in the car -- it's a simple process to wipe things down with disinfectant wipes, but it takes time and discipline). Experts tell us these actions work and evidence in other countries support that it does. Granted, I have lapses of judgement and forget to do these things occasionally, so my wife and I worry about each other and try to remind each other to act safely. It's not 100%, but as good as it will likely get until most of the country is vaccinated or a cure is discovered. I'm a realist when it comes to the challenge of vaccinating the majority of our nation... it's a daunting and complex task that likely will take over a year regardless what the current administration claims. Hence, the upcoming holiday season (T'giving thru Easter) is off my radar -- maybe Thanksgiving 2021, though.

    IMO, those that have become lax in these precautions are foolish. Those that refuse outright, claiming it's an intrusion on their freedom, etc. are hypocrites -- they take the medications and follow the directions prescribed by their doctors to, presumably, keep themselves alive -- but they won't wear a mask medical professionals tell them will protect them? They look before they cross the street and wait for safe passage but they won't social distance to protect themselves from someone passing by who could be infectious? They wash their hands after touching dirty things but... well, you get my point. I worry about these people because they are potential disease spreaders to their families, neighbors, and people they come in contact with. But I've stopped worrying about whether they themselves get sick. There are consequences to their actions and evolution favors those that make the better decisions. The gene pool is better off without them.
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  6. aggie

    aggie Well-Known Member

    Anyone a bit mystified that Debbie Lesko has finally decided to isolate now that the election is over and it's Thanksgiving holiday week? She must have been exposed due to her own lack of masking at least 20 times over the past month. Huh...
  7. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    Pretty amazing how so many of the republican's are having to go into lock down and isolating. Let's have a few dozen more rallies and call them go-away gatherings for the president. Makes you wonder how much of the explosion of covid19 cases are due to his repeated trips everywhere before the election? Especially insightful to see trump's solution to the pandemic is to go golfing. Shameful.
  8. Say What

    Say What Member

    Debbie Lesko is a pig, filthy trash that didn't do anything unless it made her look good to help Sun City
  9. aggie

    aggie Well-Known Member

    Say What - I feel you've stepped over the line with your post. Please consider editing it as we all try to be civil even when criticizing those that we don't like.
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  10. aggie

    aggie Well-Known Member

    Governor Ducey and Arizona local officials do it again!! Exactly how are they preventing the spread of COVID in Arizona? This excerpt from an article posted online at CNN shows just how backwards the efforts to protect citizens are in Arizona

    From CNN on 11/27/2020:

    The Desert Super Cup is an annual youth soccer tournament taking place over Thanksgiving weekend. The games are being played as Covid-19 cases are on the rise in Phoenix.
    This year's tournament is set to feature 460 out-of-state teams and 40 in-state teams.

    Fauci says he's worried about what coronavirus case numbers will be 3 weeks after Thanksgiving
    "Absolutely fantastic news," said Phoenix City Council member Sal DiCiccio in a tweet. "The 800 kid soccer tournament will still be held in Phoenix this coming weekend. They are coming here because they had been banned everywhere else and we have amazing facilities. We welcome you and your families to our great city!"

    Technically, Arizona has banned public events with more than 50 people, but the state left some wiggle room, allowing local officials to bypass the law if they approve the event. The Phoenix City Council has the ability to call the tournament off, but has not done so -- though Mayor Kate Gallego has voiced her disapproval of the event.

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