Commendation for the Board Members

There you go, seems like a no brainer for you to move to your place in the sun.

Like i say, for my money, i'll stay here. Everything i want at a price we can afford.

Powell by the way is not acting alone, you realize the Fed is a board of people who's goal is to promote a safe, flexible and stable monetary system.

Business as usual is still better than most other locations by the way. As we have discussed often, those unhappy where they live should where they can be happy. Sierra Vista and Niche sounds like yours.

 

It will be perfect. I have obligations here so not for a bit though. Powell is out in a few months. Greenspan was the best for keeping the economy going. Powell has the greatest influence in controlling interest rates. You forgot to address the issue of increasing number of trains?

LOL! Sierra Vista---a community in Southern Arizona.

Niche---a website that can tell you about cities, schools, etc. and help you find you best place.​

 

My closing documents from 2012 say "Railroad is 1 mile proximity. Luke AFB is 8 miles." So, I guess they have been telling people about the railroad for at least that long.

 

Bill, the railroad line could really be a problem for us living near RR tracks. People should have some quality of life. I am concerned, but don't really know what any of us can do, if deals have already been made.
I am to happy and settled overall to want to make any large change in my life. I would guess most of us feel this way. I do think though, citizens have a right to sign petitions, write our political leaders in the area and to make a fuss. I think Debbie Lesko is staying a bit quiet on the subject. I think she wants to wait and see what BSNF officials are going to say. For now, I don't think anyone really knows if more trains are going to be rolling south thru the community. If the trains are going elsewhere to other parts of U.S. I don't mind so much, but if they have to come south to then go east, that could be awful.
I think the community room is a good plan for those of us like to connect with other residents. I do think we can't really go back to the 1960's Bill. I also have a love for the good old days, but technology and sitting at home all day viewing screens are changing our world. For the better? Of course not, but everyone is only more informed, that is all. More anxiety, I think so!!

 

Eileen there is a Facebook page for the BNSF Wittmann. Lots of info there. I read they are expecting about 15 double stacked trains per day through Sun City to the hub, but no real studies done yet. Here is an article I found.

Wittmann residents are against a proposed railyard in their rural neighborhoods | 12news.com

 

I get accused often of wanting to "go back to the 60's" and nothing could be further from the truth Eileen. I do often refer to the 60's and the value and values used to sell Sun City. Wholly different and while some argue these points; i will never accept that a sense of community is unachievable; that treating new members as if they are critically important; or that working towards the common good of big picture Sun City is beyond the realm of possibility.

Sorry, technology is both a curse and a blessing. We all know our future is tied to it and no one knows the true impact of A. I. None of that matters, because no matter where you/i/we live the same challenges are being faced. Sun City was built on and around that sense of community, restoring some semblance of it isn't that hard if we make it a priority.

 

Yeah, I'm not thrilled about it but like Dave said, it's a done deal so I can't lose sleep over it.

If I won the lottery I would go back to the area of the country where half of my ancestors fought and died (many times with each other) pre revolutionary war. I would build a big house on the mountain overlooking the area where my father's people lived for generations.

But I am of modest means and on the down slide to 70 now. Life keeps happening and we make the best of it.

Sierra Vista is really beautiful. We spent time there in 2023 birding and fishing. I watch that market as well as 10 or 12 around the country. It's not less expensive than Sun City. In fact, the prices have shot up. Given the political climate there is sure to be more mining in areas around there. There are homeless there, same as here. The area is growing. When we were there we saw at least 2 or 3 high speed border patrol chases pass us on the highway.

We'll be headed down there in a couple of months for a brief vacation.

Best thing folks can do now is to hang tight. If you have a roof over your head, can afford your meds and food consider yourself lucky and blessed. Try and help those less fortunate. Try and find things that make you happy. There are more good days behind us than ahead of us. Make the most of the time you have left.

 

Things are different now. Border is secure, and the handful of folks I know who live there feel very safe now. My realtor sends me listings so I can keep up with the market. Comparable home there would be about 50k less and no HOA's or assessment fees. Taxes are low. The thing I enjoy the most is the age differences and the local fairs and flea markets. There is no sweeter sound than kids laughing. Birding, fishing, fun cowboy restaurants, trips to Bisbee and no 120 degree days are all sounding pretty darn good!

I am still young enough to move, don't want to wait till I am in my 80's and can't. 20 years is long enough to be in one place. I remember the CMO at Del Webb said at this age change is almost necessary to keep sharp and feel alive. I need to check with his wife to see how she feels about the move years later!

 

Hi Josie, I talked to a man in SCW a former PORA member who is heading up a large protest of the train hub. He is saying a lot of scary things and I am not sure of the validity of his statements. I am waiting to hear more from some of our county representatives to tell us what the reality of all of this will mean for us in SC. A lot of things are being thrown around about it right now. We need to hear from our elected officials. What do you think?

 

Bill,
I would love to see people getting together and more involved. I don't mean to sound negative, but just feel that the culture has changed and we've lost some of those very nice things we once had. I blame more difficult economic times for many too. Many people are struggling just to keep afloat. Retirement today doesn't look like retirement from the 1960s, sadly, I will admit that. I support all efforts at keeping a community vital. I feel some loss because of technology. It needs to be talked about more.. Life isn't improving much. Do you listen to the local and national news. The last several days has been terrible on every level. God help us. My evening prayer.

 

Safety Overview of Sierra Vista, AZ
General Crime Rate
Sierra Vista has a crime rate that is approximately 18.3% lower than the national average. The total crime rate is about 823 incidents per 100,000 people.

Violent and Property Crimes
CRIME TYPE RATE PER 100,000 PEOPLE NATIONAL AVERAGE
Violent Crime 281 364
Property Crime 724 1,917

• The chance of becoming a victim of a violent crime is 1 in 449.
• The chance of experiencing a property crime is 1 in 61.

Recent Trends
Crime rates in Sierra Vista have increased by 20.3% year-over-year. Violent crime has risen by 23.1%, while property crime has also seen an uptick.

Community Safety Perception
Surveys indicate that 53% of residents feel secure in their neighborhood, while 47% express concerns about safety, particularly at night.

Conclusion
While Sierra Vista is generally safer than many areas, recent increases in crime rates and mixed perceptions among residents suggest that caution is advisable, especially in certain neighborhoods.

 

EC, to put to rest any pretense, Debbie Lesko is a yes vote on this. Review what she has done in the State legislature, aside secure an ex post facto law for Jan Ek and the Stewart lawsuit, and as our Congressional rep besides getting a post office named in Surprise. I will probably get grief for this but she is totally useless except she is now working on her third pension benefit when she leaves office to go with that lifetime health care from Congress. To quote Chico Esqueila“ Baseball been very very good to Debbie Lesko, very very good.”

 

Geoff, your post has made me laugh. Thank you!

 

That could be said about Sun City as well. There were recently 2 violent murders 3 doors down from my home. A shooting on 107th and Grand yesterday. Phase one is not safe. I know a guy on Oakmont who lives next to a crack house (3 years now). MCSO is there often making arrests. Also know someone on Alabama who lives locked and loaded because she never knows who will be trying to look in her windows or who will be using her property as a toilet.

Back to SV I would love to know the date of that report and if was AI generated. I considered SV a few years ago but the open border changed my mind. Now CBP noted a significant drop in the number of illegal aliens released into the country, with zero releases in May 2025 compared to over 62,000 in May 2024.

Thanks for posting and looking forward to your answer on date and source of information.

 

EC, as a good friend once told me, “The truth hurts and it’s always funny.”

 

With all due respect to those who think they know the outcome, nothing is a done deal till its done. The opposition to this is loud and strong and apparently many of those living in Witmann have no interest in it being there. Standard operating procedure on issues like this are always to paint worse case scenarios.

For those interested, there will be public hearings and by all means you should attend. Voicing your concerns will amplify with more folks in the room. Better yet, that's where you will get the facts, not the rumors.

A far as moving away from Sun City or for that matter, living in fear of what is to become of us, don't it's not worth the aggravation. Carole pointed out the crime stats for Sierra Vista and the reality is simply this; everywhere/anywhere you move will have problems. Pretending otherwise is folly.

We know historically those problems were less evident and less impactful in Sun City. Life outside these walls looks like unorganized chaos. It's the life we voted for and the results were totally predictable. With the shooting the other day in NY, i read an article stating armed guards and more guns should help stave that off. Sweet, more guns.

In the immortal words of Bruce Willis in Die Hard: "Yippy-Ki-Yay-MF." Like Emily, i am a simple man with simple pleasures...Sun City fits our needs perfectly. For those who aren't happy, finding your place in the sun is certainly an option you should explore. Lord knows, the grass always looks greener on the other side.

 

Since this statement appears to be directed to me I will answer. I never said I wanted to move due to crime. It is everywhere. I don't like the summers, miss hearing kids laughing, not a fan of the BOD acting like dictators. Also Sierra Vista is a beautiful area with great places to hike, fish and just enjoy nature. We have nature here, it's called a golf course and we are not even allowed to walk the cart path after or before play.

 

Not really Josie, i've long argued anyone living in Sun City (or anywhere else for that matter), should find their place in the sun (or in the winter's cold) and move there. Life is too short to be miserable in their surrounding. You posted two communities you saw as more desirable, it tells me you are looking which is a good thing for you.

The golf course signs used to say walking the paths was acceptable before tee times began after the last group was done. No idea if that's still the case. Perhaps someone knows?

 

RCSC Golf Administrative Rules

4. Non-golfers are not allowed on the course, including cart paths, during golfing hours, excluding a rider who must remain in the golf cart at all times. Golfing hours are defined as beginning at the first tee time until sunset.Organized events may allow spectators at the discretion of the Director of Golf.

5. Except for bicycles specifically manufactured for golf course use and approved by the Director of Golf, bicycles are not allowed on the golf course, including cart paths, during golfing hours, defined as beginning at the first tee time until sunset.

➡️ Explore the eight RCSC golf courses including course layouts. Pick a path HERE.

➡️ All the golf rules HERE.

 

Never mind. Finally had a chance to look for myself. Complete A.I. generated from 2023. Thanks for trying though.