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  1. FYI

    FYI Well-Known Member

    I think the jury is still out on that? I believe the truth will be coming out, it always does. Besides, Trump's ego is too big to not try to prove he actually would have won the 2020 election if it wasn't rigged.

    Meanwhile, you totally ignore all the reports that have since dwindled out little by little from various States that have found numerous voters who weren't qualified to cast a vote voted, but of course when you only listen to MSNBC and CNN you will never hear that part of the story! Just like they never reported on Biden's cognitive decline while he was in office, but are out there now selling books on how the media covered it all up.

    There's nothing wrong with what Trump did in business. He had his ups and downs but never filed for personal bankruptcy protection, only protection for his business'. I wish I could say the same thing about Joe's newly unredacted documents that show Joe was negotiating an oil and gas deal to benefit Hunter and Burisma through several private email accounts.

    You talk about Trump and shady business deals but at least he wasn't selling his Country down the river. Biden’s net worth had increased from $9 million in 2019 to $41 million in 2022, which is remarkable when you consider he was on a fixed salary working in Congress for over 50 years. Some say he's worth over 100 million? Wow! all that on a congressman's salary! I'm still wondering how he even accumulated the 9 million?
     
  2. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    "The jury is still out?" Really Tom? I bet 2000 Mules (and the apology the director had to make) or the Pillow Guy with his 5 million dollar guarantee (he lost) spilling the beans is just around the corner. The Big reveal is coming any day now. Wonder what they are waiting for? Maybe the Rapture?

    Oddly, i didn't mention any of trump's "shady business deals," those were your words. I could have but why bother?

    I noticed you didn't post your links on Biden's fortune. Safe move on your part; we know that Facebook meme's are often created by an oddball collection of crooks, grifters and bots of all country's of origin; the width and breadth of their lies, half-truths and good old horse manure is deep and plentiful. Plus, the links most often posted are for sites that have zero credibility, other than with the maga clan. Conspiracy theories abound.

    Love to see you share your link's to Joe's sudden wealth. I'll be happy to post what i found, bet there's a big difference, and also bet which one stands up to scrutiny over posting facts rather than fiction. Love to see you post trump's tax returns, they should be released any day now eh?

    One last question Tom: Can you tell me the date the Ukraine started the war with Russia? Asking for a friend.
     
  3. FYI

    FYI Well-Known Member

    Sorry Bill, I'm not on Facebook.

    And I agree, Russia started the war.

    But do you ever wonder how Joe got so rich living off of a federal salary all his life? And you call Trump corrupt?
     
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  4. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the answer regarding Russia Tom, i'll circle back on Biden's amassed wealth later. For now, i could not resist to share this mornings treasure trove brought to me (and now all of you) from The Bulwark and more importantly from the pages of the Wall Street Journal. Let's be clear, the WSJ is hardly the bastion of liberal leanings. We know some of the crew on this site worships at the alter of the stupidly wealthy, fortunately i'm not one of them. Good on ya for being rich, but obscenely wealthy (while feasting off government contracts and ruining the lives of dedicated public servants) only qualifies you as an ass-hat in my book. Then add to your shamelessness by wanting too procreate with every skirt walking down the street, just seems off. But don't take my word for Elon's behavior, nope, i admit, i have a bias. Here's what The Bulwark and the WSJ had to say:

    THE WORLD’S WEALTHIEST CREEP:
    Elon Musk’s personal fixer, Jared Birchall, had a warning for Ashley St. Clair, the 26-year-old mother of one of Musk’s fourteen known children. When one of Musk’s kids’ mothers goes “the legal route,” Birchall told her in December, “that always, always leads to a worse outcome for that woman than what it would have been otherwise.”

    That’s one of about a million wild details reported in a Wall Street Journal feature that dropped last night: “The Tactics Elon Musk Uses to Manage His ‘Legion’ of Babies—and Their Mothers.” Four grafs in, our jaws were on the floor. By the end, we were going from room to room trying to figure out where we’d left our jaws at all.


    Here’s just a sampling:

    • “In Musk’s dark view of the world, civilization is under threat because of a declining population. He is driven to correct the historic moment by helping seed the earth with more human beings of high intelligence . . . Musk refers to his offspring as a “legion.” . . . During St. Clair’s pregnancy, Musk suggested that they bring in other women to have even more of their children faster. ‘To reach legion-level before the apocalypse,’ he said to St. Clair in a text message viewed by the Wall Street Journal, ‘we will need to use surrogates.’”
    • “Musk has used his wealth to buy the silence of some women who have his kids. . . . If the mothers push back or seek outside counsel, Musk’s advisers, including Birchall, have threatened financial retribution. . . . Birchall described Musk’s expectations to St. Clair: ‘Privacy and confidentiality is the top of the list in every aspect of his life, every aspect, and his entire world is set up to be, like, a meritocracy.’ Benefits flow, he said, when ‘people do good work.’”
    • “While Musk posts sometimes dozens of times a day on X about right-wing politics or his companies, among other things on his mind, he often interacts with lesser-known users. He replies to them and sometimes interacts through direct messages, some of whom he eventually solicits to have his babies, according to people who have viewed the messages.”
    • “Birchall was involved in acquiring the property for a compound in Austin where Musk imagined the women and his growing number of babies would all live among multiple residences. . . . [Neuralink executive Shivon] Zilis lives in the gated community with their children, and Musk comes and goes. Musk also attempted to get Grimes to move to the compound, but she refused. Similarly, he tried to get St. Clair to spend some time in Austin ‘with our kid legion,’ according to a text he sent her.”
    • “When Birchall told St. Clair that other mothers signed similar secrecy agreements, she observed that they didn’t seem happy. Zilis, Birchall said, ‘goes in and out of finding contentment’ but Grimes wasn’t ‘ever going to find true happiness.’”
    We give up. You’d better just go read the whole thing. Isn’t it nice to have such normal, well-adjusted people running the world?

    Yikes...happy to share with the entire TOSC community on this thread that truly doesn't belong here.
     
  5. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    There is something truly wrong with you. Trying to take down a man you have zero effect over is amazing. Why do you care? So he has a bunch of kids, so he tweets. Have you appointed yourself the moral compass over everyone's personal life now? Glass houses Bill. Your self importance is truly amazing. Musk, Trump, Biden and 99.999999% of people in America are not even aware you exist. Wish I was one.
     
  6. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    Good to know your sources weren't Facebook meme's Tom. That said, most of the Biden conspiracy crap has come from right wing websites with virtually no standing or with verifiable sources. You know, kind of like the 400 pound guy in his mother's basement in Chicago pounding out facts (more likely Louisiana so they are close to that goofy Senator John Neely Kennedy for an even goofier quote).

    Anyway. here's some data and then the link to answer your concerns about sleepy old Joe and his earnings:
    Jill Biden Salary

    Jill Biden earns $100,000 per year as a teacher at Northern Virginia Community College.

    Tax Returns

    2016: $400,000

    2017: $11 million

    2018: $4.6 million

    2019: $944,737

    2020: $607,336

    2021: $610,702

    2022: $579,514

    2023: $619,976

    Here's the link to the story where they explain in detail the huge jump in revenue after leaving the White House as the vice president. Like it or not, politician's from both parties cash in through book deals and public speaking engagements (it's all spelled out in the linked article). What i was delighted to read was Joe wasn't telling reporters he wasn't waiting for the IRS to release his audited taxes. Seems to me, we are still waiting for trump yo share his.

    I'm always fascinated when those on the right go down this rabbit hole. Given their concerns to root out corruption and tax cheaters (hard to do these days with Elon/Doge gutting the IRS to shreds, there should be an investigation of Jared and the 2 billion dollar deal done with the Saudi's 39 minutes (hyperbole, my bad but i know you get the picture) after leaving the White House. You know, the same country that butchered Jamal Khashoggi, and trump did nothing about.

    Better yet, i am excited to see Pam Bondi unleash the full weight of her department on Marjorie Taylor Greene and the alleged insider trading that took place. The rumor (actually she bragged about it) she bought a bunch of stocks just before trump pulled down the tariffs (kind of) has to trigger suspicion by those of you lusting after locking up old dementia Joe for master-minding this complicated Burisma sleight of hand while drooling all over himself.

    Good God i love conspiracy theorists, where would trump be without them?
     
  7. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    Nice work Bill. What's your point? Trump is POTUS, Biden still has dementia and is not POTUS, he never really was though.
     
  8. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    Hey thanks for asking/caring. In fact, just yesterday i had my second eye done (cataract surgery). It's a little tough seeing what i am typing, but we all know how important it is to "flood the zone." Just doing my part to help those of you who don't know where to look or who struggle with being objective grow by doing my small part. You know, just a guy.

    Anyway, just a few minutes ago i was reading The Bulwark and Johnathan V Last's (JVL as we lovingly refer to him) column. It was really good, as usual, but there was one piece that stood head and shoulders above the rest of it. He dug deep into his earlier followings and resurrected a writer who he drifted away from; a blogger named Scott Alexander.

    The full tilt script is hidden behind a paywall but he did have this portion of his remarks posted and i am sharing them with you. Mind you, it is a bit harsh but truly eye opening for those who want to see what is happening without those blinders so many of you like to wear. Enjoy (or not):

    We wanted people to question p-hacked psychology studies and TED talk experts telling them the Nine Ways That Science Proves Merit Is Fake. So we punctured some windbag experts, then woke up one day with an anti-vaxxer in HHS and half the country thinking insulin is a globohomo conspiracy - or whatever it is they’re saying on X now.

    We wanted a swift, lean government that stopped strangling innovation and infrastructure. Instead we got chainsaw-style firings, total devastation of state capacity in exactly the way most likely to strangle innovation more than ever, and the worst and dumbest people in the world gloating about how they solved the “grift” of sending life-saving medications to dying babies.

    We wanted to be able to hold a job without reciting DEI shibboleths or filling in multiple-choice exams about how white people cause earthquakes. Instead we got a thousand scientific studies cancelled because they used the string “trans-” in a sentence on transmembrane proteins.

    We wanted to be able to discuss commonsense facts about sex and race without getting called Hitler. So we cheered as Musk dismantled the censorship-industrial complex, and the next day every third tweet was something like “the Jews are forcing antibiotics on you to keep you weak” and God help me but lots of people are starting to believe it.

    We wanted to be able to prevent biological men with testosterone-boosted muscles from competing in women’s sports leagues. And somehow that morphed into a world where whenever someone with more subtlety than Attila the Hun tries to stake out a position on anything, roving bands of dead-eyed reply guys interject “HOW MANY GENDERS ARE THERE? BET YOU CAN’T ANSWER THAT HAR HAR HAR!”

    We wanted to believe in Silicon Valley, in the power of smart techno-optimists to do good and change the world. Instead, those people turned on us and helped elect a lunatic in exchange for his using taxpayer money to pump their crypto bags. The guy I thought of as a hero and an inspiration through my twenties, reduced to a Catturd-retweet-bot. . . .

    It’s not a “nobody could have known” situation. The smug woke misinformation expert Redditors knew! They predicted, very clearly, “if you ever let people talk about how men have higher grip strength than women, then 5 - 10 years later America will be taken over by a cadre of frothing tyrant-bigots who will try to cancel the Constitution.” We laughed at them because it was so outlandish. But in retrospect they were the greatest superforecasters of all.

    Yikes.
     
  9. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    Source for this? Can't find one other than the funny papers. We talked about waiting before posting BS until you have a verifiable source, but keep making yourself look hateful and silly.
     
  10. Josie P

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  11. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    Thanks for asking, easier said than done:
    Marjorie Taylor Greene bought stock before market jumped on Trump tariff pause.

    Marjorie Taylor Greene Profited Off Stock Market by Buying Thousands in Stocks Right Before Trump's Tariff Pause

    Marjorie Taylor Greene's huge stock buy the day before Trump's tariff U-turn sent market soaring

    The New York Times
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    Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene disclosed that she had purchased between tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of stock on April 8 and 9, the day before and the day of President Trump’s announcement that he was pausing a sweeping set of global tariffs.

    Gee Whiz, Marjorie Taylor Greene Sure Bought a Bunch of Stocks Just Before Trump Paused His Tariffs

    There's dozen's more, but why bother? You don't want to actually know what happened. Even with that, just happy, dare i say, joyous to help you forge your way out of the abyss and help you find the light.
     
  12. FYI

    FYI Well-Known Member

    Did you even listen to yourself when you wrote that? LOL! That's exactly what the Left, your Party, has been doing to Trump since he came down the escalator at Trump Plaza in 2015 to announce we would be running for President???? You're joking right?

    So....what do you think of the Letitia James crap that's rearing its ugly head?

    Just one more example of how all the charges against Trump is just Lawfare and all falling apart just like Fani Willis in Georgia!
     
  13. FYI

    FYI Well-Known Member

    You know what, although it's tawdry and all politicians do it, it's the rule Congress made and they ain't gonna change it and kill the goose that lays the golden eggs!

    The only restriction Congress has made when dealing in the stock market is, they have to report it. There's no law preventing from them from doing it.
     
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  14. BPearson

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    Of course i listen to myself; self-awareness is critical to being capable of discerning the differences between fact and fiction. Which is exactly why i so often question trump supporter's and their ability to sort one from the other. Goodness gracious Tom, i know for a fact you are smarter than that.

    The trump mania was started by claiming Obama was not legally able to be president. I think Joe Arpiao is still searching for those documents. His entire sch tick was built on and around lies. It still is to this day. The trump mania was fueled by him being a genius businessman when in reality he was a genius marketer who was brilliant at the con. Do you really want me to list them?

    Nuh, doesn't matter. Time will provide us all the measuring stick on what and how trump really was. Hopefully there will be something left to salvage
     
  15. BPearson

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    Not according to A. I. or is it A. 1. I'm easily confused these days after listening to or Secretary of Education,

    What is insider trading?
    • Insider trading involves using confidential, nonpublic information about a company to make trades in its securities.
    Why is it illegal?
    • Insider trading undermines investor confidence in the fairness and integrity of the securities markets.
    Penalties for insider trading:
    • Convictions for insider trading can result in civil and criminal penalties, including:
      • Fines: The SEC can levy substantial fines on individuals or companies involved in insider trading.
      • Disgorgement of profits: Those who profit from insider trading may be required to return their illicit gains.
      • Trading bans: Individuals may be prohibited from trading in securities for a certain period.
      • Prison sentences: Criminal prosecution can lead to lengthy prison sentences, potentially up to 25 years.
    • This information could include details about a company's financial performance, upcoming announcements, or other matters that could significantly affect the company's stock price.
    • It's a violation of trust and confidence, as those with insider information are often in positions of power or responsibility within the company, meaning they have a duty to protect the interests of shareholders.
    • It creates an unfair advantage for those with insider information, giving them an opportunity to profit at the expense of other investors who don't have access to the same knowledge.
    • The SEC (Securities and Exchange Commission) has made the detection and prosecution of insider trading violations one of its enforcement priorities.
     
  16. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    Bill only listens to himself. It's extremely difficult to pay attention to the left when our beliefs are so different. Hey, maybe MTG and Pelosi can be roomies?

    Never will I ever:

    Believe there are more than two genders

    Think it’s ok to let biological males compete in biological women’s sports

    Think it’s ok for children to be mutilated for sex changes…wait till they are 21 and let them do what they want.

    Think it’s ok for a biological male to use a female restroom

    Think it’s ok for a biological male to be put in a women’s prison

    Think it’s ok for gays to parade/march naked in the streets in front of children

    Believe biological men can have periods or get pregnant

    Agree with putting woman on the Supreme Court who doesn’t know what a woman is

    Agree with full term abortions where the baby is set aside to die

    So much more but I have things to do.
     
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  19. FYI

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    Aren't you always the one that says, Obama is old news? Why bring him up again?

    I will say this about that though, first of all Obama's own literary agent, Acton & Dystel, published the following when that agency was publicizing the authors they represent:

    Obama was "born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii." Of course that was blown-off by the Left leaning media and said to be a simple mistake made by the agency.

    But here's the funny thing, when Neil Abercrombie was running for Governor of Hawaii, one of his campaign promises was that, if elected, he would produce Obama's Certificate of Birth. Well guess what? When he went looking it he never could find it! Hmmm?

    I wonder if he was looking Barack Obama or Barry Soetoro?

    I don't know what the truth is, but many things that Joe Arpaio and his Chief Investigator Mike Zullo found were pretty darn interesting. Everything from several points of forgery on the certificate that they finally did produce, to the forged date on the registration form for the Selective Service. Apparently, it's a felony if you didn't register for the Selective Service and you were not eligible to run for President so they had to manipulate the Post Office date stamp. It's an interesting story that you should look into.

    Obama/Barry was born in 1961 so he would have had to register for the Selective Service around 1980. Since the Post Office destroys their old stamps the only one that was available was a 2008 stamp. So they took the 2008 stamp, cut-out the 08 and turned it upside down so it read 80, and stamped his card.

    Now I'm sure you're thinking that I'm just a conspiracy theorist but the truth is, this was in fact confirmed because when they looked at the registrations from those who signed-up both before and after Obama, each one of their registrations were stamped was the full, 4 digit "1980" while Obama's was the only one dated as "80."

    If you were to expand your research you might just find a different side to the story?
     
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