Is anyone interested beside me? (and SCJ) Let's go backward before going forward!

I recently posted this in another thread and felt this idea deserved its own:

I love, love, love the idea of a community center; a gathering place that has nothing to do with corporate mumble-jumble or committees. I, too, like the idea of candidates from each section of Sun City - Phase 1, 2, and 3.
I have been stewing and percolating about this for a couple of months now and hope that with a new Board that might be willing to work with the membership, I'd like to see several "new" committees formed - or maybe they should be clubs? - Volunteer Committee or Volunteer Advisory Committee; Committee for Social Culture; the "Give Back Club" (this could encompass so much - what do you have to give to your community: time? money? a ride? a visit to a shut-in? passing on the history; ); a "true" FB group for Sun City residents, not the one on RCSC website that only spouts propaganda; Seniors who need assistance (Yes, I know there are other groups but it wouldn't hurt to have our own.); a welcome wagon/more of a support group for brandy-new people who need to know all there is about SC (without trying to read through the maze of Corporate Records/meeting minutes {that say nothing!}) from PIF fees to Monthly Assessment fees; Distribute Sun Views to neighborhoods? "Spread Awareness/Prove that you Care"; Coordinate with real estate agencies to capture new homeowners names and email addresses - we have no centralized way to communicate with each other.

I'm going to ask for help here from Mr. Sun City, alias BP. In the annals of history that you've read, is there any descriptions of how clubs were formed; how they became such a maze of keeping track of people and space; why it needs to be done, etc., etc. Is it better to try and have a committee instead of a club? Is there any way that you - with your unlimited supply of SC wisdom - can advise me how to start such an endeavor? I'm sure that there are others out there that would like to "go backwards in order to go forwards."

 

Love the ideas, love the energy, not crazy about the options. Let's break the two down: A committee (at least via the RCSC) would have to be included in the by-laws as either standing or ad-hoc. Ad-hoc being obviously a short-term arrangement that outlives its purpose. It has to have a stated reason for its existence and would need two board members assigned as the chair and co-chair. Finally, anything they do, making recommendations to the board usually is meaningless, at least under the old gm. Even with a change in attitude, the potential is very limited.

The second one, forming a club, is a better option, but also fraught with challenges. As SCJ indicated, she started a board games club to meet people and have fun. After the air goes out of the room, because any club needs to be requested via the RCSC. It's a simple procedure, getting the required signatures...and then the work starts. The threshold for signatures is low, not sure, 25 or 50, then you need to fill out an application (SJC would know this better than i). If it is approved, then you need to write rules and regulations, elect officers and meet whatever other requirements the RCSC asks. They are fairly stringent as the clubs fall under the IRS regulations governing the RCSC. Then the bigger problem kicks in, what kind of space is available and what times could you get it?

Not trying to be difficult, but as SCJ found out, trying to create a club to have fun became more work than most people want. It's simply easier to meet at someone's house and have a good time. I think i mentioned, when Paul Herrmann and i began the process for the boomers club (it ultimately became the Next Gen club), our goal was to mentor new residents and help them acclimate to a wholly different life style. When others stepped up, we stepped out and it became a more social club.

One of the reasons i resented the outgoing gm was i could envision, with the purchase of the Lakes Club, an entirely different direction. Having a true "Community Center" changes the dynamic. Especially one where community gatherings with so much space, allows for options we cannot even imagine. Her vision was spending boatloads of money on golf courses and of course the golfers that filled the board thought that was a kick-ass idea.

While serving on the board, i never said my ideas were right or the best for Sun City. What i repeatedly said was, let's allow the membership to decide what was best for Sun City. Frankly, that scared the shit out of the gm and the board who felt they should make all those decisions. And to be clear, it still pisses me off to this day. Had the community wanted us to buy the Lakes Club, Sun City would be far removed where we are at this very moment.

 

Just my .01 - 1/2 cents worth: seems like what your describing my be more suited to club(s) - with ability to be less formal and more reactive to new ideas and community needs. I can see the bureaucracy as a down-side, but the exposure as being listed as a club would be big. I've never done it before, but I'll help with the paperwork when you're ready to launch.

 

Yesterday as I drove past Lakeside on my way to Sun Dial, I noticed a large building on the southeast (I think - not the best with directions) side that is for lease. I believe it was a medical building. Is that the one you are talking about? Does RCSC consider leasing a building? And does anyone know what ever happened to the Acuity Building on the corner of 111th and Thunderbird? The leasing signs are gone.

 

FYI Current Former Acuity Hospital

Our neighborhood watches this property closely. It ALMOST became a behavioral health facility. We were successful in blocking that.
https://www.yourvalley.net/stories/sun-city-residents-vent-anger-over-proposal,120850

Office Space info was last updated July 09, 2019

• https://www.officespace.com/az/sun-city/2099099-13818-n-thunderbird-blvd

This is currently in the front door.
“Plaza Companies
This facility is currently closed.
Please contact Plaza Companies at 602-972-4400 with any questions or emergencies.”
https://www.theplazaco.com/

Maricopa County Tax Assessor lists current owner as:
ARHC RHSUNAZ01 LLC
Address search
https://mcassessor.maricopa.gov/

Corporation Details
https://corporatesaz.com/c/R18802782/arhc-rhsunaz01-llc

 

I drove into the parking lot at 13041 N. Del Webb Blvd. where the For Lease sign is. Went on the website and discovered it is a two-story building with 22,165 sq. ft. on the first floor and 23,255 sq. ft. on the second floor. Here is the website, I can't embed it.
https://www.showcase.com/13041-n-del-webb-blvd-sun-city-az-85351/9438078/

Has SC ever leased a building?