Masks! Help stop the spread of COVID 19.

Discussion in 'Sun City General Discussions' started by aggie, Jun 18, 2020.

  1. Say What

    Say What Active Member

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$May the kids in the room stay healthy ignorant greedy Bible thumping garbage I bet that system wouldn't block a fart in the air
     
  2. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    Gotta love the fact the Dream City church deleted their video on their "miracle" ventilation system. Then they came on and admitted they made an oops/error in their assessment. Guess when the experts told them they were full of excrement, they took it to heart. God love them eh?

    And now for the really big news: We now have absolute positive proof we have officially elected the dumbest human being to ever serve as president of the United States. Sorry to say, after telling the world the problem is too much testing, the orange buffoon has started de-funding testing sites across the country. Texas is especially hard hit, seems he didn't like to see those numbers spiking. Here's the link to Business Insider with the story.

    Let me ask, very politely, which trump zealot wants to try and explain how you stop the spreading if you cannot or do not know who has it?

    By the way, now that we are hitting 110 degrees regularly, when should we expect Covid19 to poof, disappear? Maybe we have to get a touch warmer...120 or 130 and then the magic can begin.
     
  3. carptrash

    carptrash Active Member

    At some point doesn't stopping testing during a plague become a crime against humanity? Are we so invested in keeping the "number of cases" down that we are will to let the "number of deaths" skyrocket? For most of us I think the answer is "No." I see that sometimes ten times as many people read these threads as comment on them. We'd lie to hear from a few others. From someone who can tell us where the wisdom in trump's decisions lie. During his speech Tuesday, the president mentioned the COVID-19 spike in Arizona. "We want to do testing; we want to do everything," he said. "But they use it to make us look bad.”
     
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  4. CT, “We want to do testing; we want to do everything, but they use it to make us look bad.”
    Res ipsa loquitur.
     
  5. IndependentCynic

    IndependentCynic Active Member

    Sorry Donald, but more CV cases aren't needed to make your Administration "look bad" with respect to the Pandemic -- the lack of action speaks for itself, the constant attempts to blame someone else for that lack of performance speaks for itself, the lack of taking any responsibility speaks for itself. Like Nero, Trump is fiddling while our Country burns.
     
  6. carptrash

    carptrash Active Member

    JUST LOOKED AT YESTERDAY'S STATISTICS. (whooops) Of the Top Ten states in Covid new cases, 8 have Republican govonors and 7 were once members of the Confederate States of America. Sure stats can be used to lie but there often are truths in there too.
     
  7. IndependentCynic

    IndependentCynic Active Member

    It's just a mask... please, wear one for everyone's sake.

    I've seen several posts on Nextdoor in the last 24-hours saying wearing a face mask isn't the law, is unconstitutional, etc. Well, it is the law... refer to the Maricopa County order [here] and the fine for not doing so is $50.

    Below is a post a retired surgeon made to his facebook account Jun 12th. It's a long read, but I found it insightful and motivational...

     
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  8. Say What

    Say What Active Member

    Trump scum refuses to
     
  9. IndependentCynic

    IndependentCynic Active Member

    This video is so scary it's almost funny: Anti-maskers commenting at the Palm Beach County Commissioners meeting prior to them enacting a mandatory mask order yesterday. I can't in my wildest imagination understand these people's beliefs about, well, almost anything. Sadly, I received a tirade of similar statements from one of my SC customers this morning when I said "I"m wearing a mask and I'd be more comfortable if you wore a mask, too." She refused, so I left. There are principles I'd risk dying for -- but not her's!
     
  10. carptrash

    carptrash Active Member

    What is the value behind applying the "I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees" philosophy to something like masks. No one has to die if we just cooperate with one another. Or is that too much like socialism?
     
  11. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    Great video IC. The stories abound around the country as small minded people try and impress their neighbors, friends and complete strangers with just how stupid they truly are. Just when i thought the vice president might take the cake for his "performance" last week with how great we are doing, we see the multitudes of trump leg-humpers going crazy over wearing a mask. Truly a sight to behold.

    The tragedy is it's only going to get worse...and most of it could have been avoided. Who needs leadership when you have a clown as president. You all know damned well, the only outcome could be what we have now...a three ring circus.
     
  12. IndependentCynic

    IndependentCynic Active Member

    Please wear a mask!
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    Yup, no contest. The worlds smartest person and best communicator has made our COVID per capita numbers No. 1 amongst the high-income countries, according to the NYT this morning. China, South Korea, etc are similar to the Japan line on the graph. And notably, he (literally) did nothing to make being No. 1 happen :eek:.
     
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  13. fixj

    fixj Active Member

    Per CBS This Morning 24% of tests in AZ are coming back positive for CV19. Highest percent in the US.
     
  14. aggie

    aggie Well-Known Member

    Yup. We're in deep poop. Today AZ's cases hit 4400 and Sun City's cases are now at 272. The County and State sites also say that the figures run about 4-7 days behind test results, hospitalizations & deaths. We are probably in worse shape than it's even being reported to the CDC.

    No one can tell me that the Trump Rally didn't have a big impact on the spread of COVID. There is no way that contact tracing can be done on that mob with our shortage of tracers. Heck, we don't answer calls that aren't identified so who knows if we've ever been in contact with a spreader.

    Hate to be such a downer. On a positive note, we got a home delivery from Famous Dave's BBQ yesterday. Amazing amount of food, still hot, will provide at least another 2 meals and I didn't have to cook!!
     
  15. It hit me earlier this week when the EU barred Americans from entering because of our government’s abysmal response to the covfefe 19 pandemic. Couple that with a cratered economy, lack of testing, shortages of needed medical supplies, high unemployment figures, and lack of jobs, President Hydroxy cholesterol butt has turned the U.S. into one of those shithole countries he whined about in less than six months.Hell of a job Donnie!!!!
     
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  16. IndependentCynic

    IndependentCynic Active Member

    Everyone I've talked to who doesn't want to wear a mask eventually says something to the effect of "I don't know anyone who has Covid. Do you?" The implication is it's a hoax or not prevalent or just the flu. Perhaps it's time to better expose some real life stories from our communities. It's one thing to read a story about Tom Hanks or a guy who got it in a bar in Texas or Florida, or even Scottsdale, but it might better hit home if it was a person who lives in SC/SCW who got it and survived/died. I'm not necessarily suggesting names be revealed, but there needs to be enough gory detail to get the people thinking this isn't real to understand that it is. There's been 200+ cases in SC -- yet I haven't heard or read a single tangible detail (other than an early rumor that two died at Royal Oaks.) Something needs to shock those that think they are invincible, or that this is just something happening somewhere else to other people. Otherwise it's going to be a big suprise to the naysayers when the first person they know with Covid... is them.
     
  17. carptrash

    carptrash Active Member

    I find it useful to remember that it is not the government that walks into a crowded bar, a church (I saw 50 or 60 cars in the parking lot this am) a political rally, or goes tubing do a river. Yes, it was (opinion) stupid for the government to allow those things to happen, but these were all choices made by folks like you and me. Many of them the same ones who push "common sense" as being a real thing.
     
  18. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    Come on gang, you are being just too harsh on the orange guy. He's got it all under control. Best of all he's broken it down to the simplest of concepts...you all just need to learn to live with it. See how easy this becomes, as the number of dead grow, we're weeding out the pack and reducing costs, especially on those old people laying around nursing homes waiting to die. My guess is it's all a win/win in his eyes.

    And, don't forget he's pretty busy right now trying to save all those old statutes of confederate war hero's. You have to give him credit...he certainly knows how to prioritize.
     
  19. carptrash

    carptrash Active Member

    Yes, learning to live with it. learning to live with it.jpg
     
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  20. IndependentCynic

    IndependentCynic Active Member

    Well yes, that's true. We all are ultimately responsible for our individual actions, be they brilliant, mediocre, or stupid. But allowing 350-million people (who don't have, nor could understand if they did, the currently available facts) make decisions about what's best for the "herd" is insane.

    As the most sophisticated of animals, we humans follow leaders, have laws, etc. and in most cases have developed a hierarchy of responsibilities. When it comes to global health we, until Trump, had the WHO, individual countries national health organizations, then state and local health dept. I for one expected our Federal government to continue to establish, based on WHO guidelines, rules we ALL must follow to minimize the effects Covid has on we Americans. I expected FEMA to deal with the crisis as such. I did not expect our Federal government to abdicate to unprepared state and local governments who, in many cases, left it up to individuals to decide what to do. Trump is using divide and conquer, make people afraid, make people distrust everyone but him as his playbook and it's not working, at least not for me. Leaving everyone in a community decide their own rules of conduct is not a community. Its the free for all Trump wants, distracting the nation while he furthers his personal agenda.
     
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