RCSC Candidate Informational Meeting. #1

VIDEO RCSC Board of Directors Candidate Informational Meeting - Tuesday, June 3, 2025 1:02:21
HERE

 

If this wasn't a "I Should have Had A V-8" moment, i don't know what else to say. One person/member in attendance.

ONE!

Wake up and smell the flowers gang, we need to rebuild, rebrand and restructure. My God, perhaps time for an intervention?

 

It's my unofficial understanding that there was another interested person, but was unable to attend the session?

We're all still waiting to learn, if, who, or when we will find out if they appointed a replacement Director!

 

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What do you mean by intervention and what would you want to accomplish by it?
I watched the video and it seemed ok to me.
The board has no control over the amount of people that show up. The event wasn't a secret.
Was that Carole who showed up?
I watched it on my phone so very hard to see detail.
I really don't understand your post. ?
Please explain further. Thanks.

 

What's hard to understand E? I know you are smarter than all that. Do you think one person showing interest in our coming election is "well attended?" Does it inspire you to see a bright future? Self-governance only works when people participate. When no one shows up, we all lose.

As far as an "intervention," i've long argued the RCSC needs to take a thorough self-inventory of where they are and why they are. Is the course they are on working? The difference between actively attracting members to become willing participants versus hoping they show up is a million miles apart. If you think what we are doing is good enough, then we simply see our future differently.

New members should be our lifeblood. We'll sell something in the neighborhood of 1400-1500 homes this year. Do we get new buyers excited to have bought into the most unique age restricted community in the country? Or, do we take their $6000 plus at point of sale and let them figure it out by themselves?

This community, Sun City, with some 32,000 plus members is filled with talented people from all walks of life. We don't need them all to run for the board, but asking/inviting/expecting them to minimal participation seems/sounds like a pretty attainable goal. As my good friend Ben used to say, if you don't set goals and then create plans to achieve them, we fail to evolve or change.

You noted in another thread the challenge the condos are facing with rising costs. I hate to break it to you, we are on the same path. Break the mold or fall into the pattern of staying the course?

I know what i'd do; but as always, that's just one man's opinion.

 

No, only one person showing up is not good.

I just wasn't sure what you meant by intervention.

The back and forth and discussion between the board left me thankful. I hope that all of the board members that still have some time left will run. I think they're working hard to get things back on track.

I know the situation is not good, Bill. This is a rough time all over. It takes all my effort every day not to fall into despair.

There's an old MLK quote that sticks with me.

"We must constantly build dikes of courage to hold back the flood of fear."

 

Let's get back to the Board and the many responsibilities that each Director gets saddled with and where many could be shared by volunteering Members!

As stated earlier in another thread, lets start with having only one Director serve as Chair or Co-Chair!

I don't want to scare anybody away from serving but what you're about to see can be found, openly, on the RCSC website. As of today, June 7th, the 8 current Directors are assigned the following, which doesn't include the 4 Directors who, additionally, are also currently tied-up in the Bylaws Working Committee!

Current Directors and their Committee & Liaison Assignments:

Tom Foster: Board President
Finance, Budget & Audit
Insurance
Bid Commission
Investment Commission
VP Lake Management Board

Chris Nettesheim: Vice President
Insurance
Outreach & Communications
Technology
Friends of the Library
Investment Commission
VP Lake Management Board

Preston Kise: Secretary
Golf Advisory
Lawn Bowling
Sun City Fire Dept.
Bid Commission

Anita Borski: Treasurer
Club Organization COC
Finance, Budget & Audit
Sun City Foundation
Sun City Community Assistance
Bid Commission (Alternate)
Investment Commission
VP Lake Management Board

Steve Collins: Club Organization COC
Election
Properties
Sun City Foundation
Sun City Homeowners Association
Roads & Safety
Bid Commission

John Bressett: Golf Advisory
Properties
Sun City Posse

Rick Gray: Elections
Lawn Bowling
Long Range Planning
Outreach & Communication
Sun City Museum

Jim Rough: Bowling
Long Range Planning
Technology
Bid Commission
Investment Commission
VP Lake Management Board

And we mustn't forget about the meetings among themselves and with management and staff or any other issue that requires Board attention.
Gee! Is there anytime left to share with your family?

 

Guys,

We all know where this is headed, and I pray (I am allowed to say I pray) that when the Board makes the big reveal of what was decided on Mountainview members will be amazed by the data supporting the conceptual design. I think this Board (particularly Chris Netteshiem) have done much better than a few boards back in communicating the steps they are taking to make major decisions. Each stakeholder group is talking to the architect, and the architect is being provided relevant data on utilization. Each group is making its pitch to keep, improve or build new amenities to suit their needs. Quite certainly the Board is meeting regularly with the architect and several of the Board members have strong preferences.

Believe it or not I told several members of the Board that I want them to be successful and that it is illogical to think otherwise. Again, I pray, that the final decision takes into account the big picture which is IMHO this:

1. We have a tremendous amount of excess capacity in our facilities
2. We need to find ways to increase the number of participating members and to increase the level of participation of members who already participate
3. We need to figure out who we need to be and build and market according to that blueprint
4. We need to rebuild a sense of community that we can all be proud of

Given the void in senior management and pressure to keep Sun City affordable, it is easy for leaders to lose sight of the big picture. My worry, which I hope is unfounded, is that the Board will feel the need to "make a decision" just because this has dragged on too long. Just one man's opinion.

 

So are the board members having to serve on more committees because retired RCSC members are no longer volunteering?

 

Why two current board members on committees?
An unwritten policy to keep the minions controlled?

 

Emily, was that a previously undocumented practice abandoned at some time?

 

Idk EO.
If memory serves me, I think there was always a board member chair and co-chair (or whatever it's being called now) on each committee.
But I thought that each board member only served on 2 committees.
Idk about undocumented. I just remembered that's the way it always was.
This is a good question.

 

And that's only part of the problem!

Some board members serve under the philosophy of "It's worked up to now, so why change?" That's just pure laziness, and ignorance I might add.

I believe it was JFK who quoted George Bernard Shaw who once said, "Some men see things as they are and say why. I dream things that never were and say why not."

I'm in the "why not" crowd! If you never do or try something new and different, things will never change, which reminds me of another famous quote, : " The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different results."

I say it's way over due to try something new and different, and if it doesn't work, at least you can say you tried!

"There are no problems, only solutions" - John Lennon

 

So are the board members having to serve on more committees because retired RCSC members are no longer volunteering?

You never answered my question above.

If retired folks will not step up and volunteer and the board is having to take on more committees due to needing a quorum for committee meetings, then aren't we fortunate that they are willing to do so?

Is that what's happening? If not, then why do I see so few non-board members on the committees in the reports?
Did people quit?
Were they mostly snowbirds who left in the beginning of May?
I am trying to understand this.

 

Emily,
Retired board members are not volunteering to serve on committees at this time.
I can’t speak for the other former board members, but my biggest reason for not stepping up is the lack of impetus to change. I can’t imagine supporting the status quo in its current ideation. Until I feel there is a true desire for change and they seek new ways of doing business, I don’t feel this is a good way to spend my time.

The practice of having 2 directors at every committee meeting has been an established practice for years. Not needed and frankly it’s a waste of time, but it is still a practice adhered to today.

 

No, Carole. Maybe I didn't make the distinction clearer.
I meant that since retired members (just regular folks) are not stepping up is the board having to fill those spots on committees and is this why the members of the board have more committee assignments?

Honestly Carole, you would make a great board member again but your health comes first. I hope you will continue to get well. Take care of yourself first.

 

I read it again. It is confusing.

 

If i told you the number of committee members over the years who quit because they felt disrespected or their opinions ignored, you would be shocked. Committee's only work when those participating feel they add value.

The board members could cut their committee assignments in half by allowing a member to act as the co-chair. We've talked about this for years. The question you have to ask yourself: Is it simply a matter of control?

 

I move to amend by substitution Article XII, COMMITTEES, SECTION 2: By striking out Section 2 and inserting, “All committees will have a Chair and Co-Chair, one of which shall be a Director and one of which may be a Member. Approval of Chair and Co-Chair shall take place at the time of appointment.

If a Director is serving as Chair or Co-Chair and is unwilling or incapable of satisfactorily performing the responsibilities, they may be removed from his/her position as Chair or Co-Chair by a ballot vote of a majority vote of the Board (5).

If a Member is serving as Chair or Co-Chair and is unwilling or incapable of satisfactorily performing the responsibilities, they may be removed from his/her position as Chair or Co-Chair by a ballot vote of a majority of the committee.

The Committee Chair and Co-Chair will conduct committee meetings unless unavailable, then another Director may do so. The Committee Chair or Co-Chair in the absence of the Chair, will be responsible for presenting committee recommendations to the Board.