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Discussion in 'Sun City General Discussions' started by FYI, Aug 18, 2024.

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  1. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    When will you understand a news station reports what others say. You can't be that ignorant. Within the DC Fox local news article there is a statement from Press Sec. It's an article stating what the white house is saying. Why can't you understand that. Think of it like the Independent publishing articles from SC residents. Understand now?
     
  2. FYI

    FYI Well-Known Member

    "White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt confirmed on Monday that President Donald Trump “stands strongly behind” Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth after a New York Times report citing unnamed sources alleging that he again discussed sensitive information in a Signal group chat."
     
  3. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    OMG, now you are twisting my words. My complaint was about MTG, not you. I have no interest in "beating" you down, you just keep stepping in the horse manure with your responses and with no help from me.

    What i have said is i don't care/worry how people feel about me. I don't live my life trying to please other people. Sorry it's just one of the tenets we learned in AA and it has helped keep me sane, sober and serene for coming up on 49 years. Probably why i find so much peace of mind and contentment living in Sun City where we have nothing to prove to anyone other than being at peace with ourselves and in my case, my higher power and my wife.

    And probably why i wasn't so nasty and judgmental about Pope Francis who spent his years comforting the poor and those needing him the most. To each their own.
     
  4. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    There's the kiss of death if i ever heard one. I gave him a week, now, maybe less.
     
  5. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    I responded to your post on MTG Bill, you could have left it there but you chose not to. You have to be right all the time. I have so many posts of you berating me it's crazy. And AA does not teach you to be a cold hearted, insensitive SOB. Quite the contrary. They teach love, being humble and asking forgiveness from the people you beat up due to alcoholism. And they try to teach being a loving caring person. Obviously it doesn't always work.
     
  6. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    The primary teachings of the AA Big Book revolve around the Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions, emphasizing spiritual growth, self-reflection, and helping others through a structured program of recovery. These teachings focus on accepting one's powerlessness over alcohol, surrendering to a higher power, making amends, and living a life of honesty, hope, and service.
    Here's a more detailed breakdown:

    1. The Twelve Steps:
    • Step 1-3:
      Acknowledging powerlessness, surrendering to a higher power, and making a decision to turn one's will and life over to its care.
    • Step 4-10:
      Conducting a moral inventory, admitting wrongdoings to oneself, others, and a higher power, making amends, and preventing future mistakes.
    • Step 11-12:
      Continuing to pray and meditate for spiritual growth, seeking to carry the message to others and practice these principles in all affairs.

    2. The Twelve Traditions:
    • These traditions guide the organization and operation of AA groups, emphasizing unity, service, anonymity, and financial responsibility.

    3. Key Principles:
    • Honesty: A fundamental principle, encouraging self-reflection and openness.
    • Hope: Emphasizing the possibility of recovery and a fulfilling life.
    • Surrender: Turning one's will and life over to a higher power.
    • Courage: The strength to face difficult situations and make changes.
    • Integrity: Maintaining one's values and being true to oneself.
    • Willingness: Being open to change and growth.
    • Humility: Recognizing one's limitations and dependence on a higher power.
    • Love: Extending compassion and understanding to oneself and others.
    • Responsibility: Taking ownership of one's actions and choices.
    • Discipline: Establishing routines and structures for recovery.
    • Awareness: Being mindful of oneself and one's environment.
    • Service: Helping others and carrying the message of recovery.

    4. The Four Absolutes: Honesty, Purity, Unselfishness, and Love, which are considered standards for appropriate behavior.

    The Big Book provides a framework for recovery, emphasizing spiritual growth, self-reflection, and the importance of community and service in achieving lasting sobriety.
     
  7. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    Goodness gracious me, you just described exactly what Pope Francis spent his years teaching and preaching. I guess that's why he was my favorite Pope during my lifetime.

    I'll dig out my copy of the big book (2nd edition given to me by my sponsor BTW) and see what it tells us about "people pleasing." Sharing that with you may help you sort through some of your anger issues and to look within for a little serenity.
     
  8. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    Dang, i didn't even have to dig it out, found it using A. I. ( Note to Linda McMahon; not A. 1. that's a steak sauce).

    Here's how the "Big Book" relates to people-pleasing:
    • Dependence on Others:
      AA highlights that placing dependence on other people, including for approval and happiness, can hinder recovery. People-pleasing often stems from a fear of rejection or a need for external validation, which can be detrimental to one's well-being.

    In essence, the "Big Book" provides a framework for understanding and addressing the underlying issues that contribute to people-pleasing behaviors, ultimately encouraging individuals to prioritize their own growth and well-being in recovery.

    • Interfering with Growth:
      The AA principle "there are only two sins; the first is to interfere with the growth of another human being, and the second is to interfere with one\'s own growth" directly relates to people-pleasing. By constantly prioritizing others' needs, people-pleasers may neglect their own emotional and spiritual development, hindering their recovery process.
    • The Importance of Self-Care:
      AA encourages individuals to prioritize their own well-being and take responsibility for their lives and actions. People-pleasing often leads to self-neglect, which is counterproductive to the goals of recovery.
    • Acceptance and Letting Go:
      The concept of acceptance, as outlined in the "Big Book" (e.g., on page 417), is also relevant to people-pleasing. Accepting the reality of one's situation, including the need to address people-pleasing behaviors, is a crucial step in recovery. Similarly, letting go of the need for constant approval and validation from others is also emphasized.
     
  9. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    Well congrats Bill. You have achieved the highest level of not caring at all. IMHO you took "The Big Book" a little too literally.
     
  10. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    From the PEW Research Center regarding Francis' popularity:

    • The Catholics who mostly favor a variety of changes are largely Democrats or lean Democratic (57%), and many say they seldom or never attend Mass (56%).
    • The Catholics who mostly say the church should not take these steps are predominantly Republicans or lean Republican (72%), and many say they attend Mass at least once a week (59%).
     
  11. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    I care deeply which is why i consider myself a truly emphatic person, a trait the right is treating as leprosy these days (happy to post an article or 10 on the subject if you want). But of course, that's just my opinion. And like you being entitled to your opinions, i have no qualms other than to mention that oft cited idiom regarding the topic. Rather than crudely typing it, let me share with you all what A.I. (not a.1.) says about it:
    PLEASE Note Before Reading Further:
    In essence, it's a blunt way of saying that everyone has opinions, but not all opinions are valuable, well-considered, or welcome.
    Important Note: This phrase is considered crude and offensive by many, so use it cautiously and consider your audience.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    The phrase "Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one" is a vulgar idiom that humorously and somewhat dismissively highlights the commonality of opinions
    .
    Here's a breakdown of its meaning:
    Meaning:
    • Ubiquity of Opinions: It acknowledges that everyone possesses opinions, regardless of their validity or depth of thought.
    • Subjectivity and Potential for Disagreement: It implies that like assholes, opinions can be unattractive or unwelcome to others, suggesting a potential for conflict or lack of shared perspectives.
    • Dismissal of Some Opinions: It can be used to downplay the importance or value of certain opinions, suggesting they are as easily found as...well, you get the idea.
    • Call for Self-Reflection: Some interpretations suggest that just as one should be mindful of their bodily functions, one should also be thoughtful and critical about their own opinions.
     
  12. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    OMG, did you really just print this?
    The Catholics who mostly say the church should not take these steps are predominantly Republicans or lean Republican (72%).

    So Republicans don't think the church should be taking these steps?

    "They teach love, being humble and asking forgiveness and they try to teach being a loving caring person." Which is what i said Pope Francis was teaching and preaching. If not that, what in the world are they supposed to be doing?
     
  13. FYI

    FYI Well-Known Member

    I certainly hope you're wrong Bill. That would be the moment the camel stuck his head into the tent!

    Isn't it bad enough that the Left just keeps on going after Trump day-after-day, year-after-year but the only thing we ever find out is that those accusing Trump of wrongdoing have themselves been doing it all along! And I'm sure there's more to discover!

    If the Dem's are successful in making that to happen because of anonymous reports and rumors, then they will only double-down and select their next target and it never ends. The Dem's need to stop worrying about Trump's cabinet and start thinking about who they run in 2028 and what platform they will run on other than open borders, transgenders, boys in girls sports, sanctuary cities, no cash bail, and turning criminals into victims.

    IMHO, Trump needs to stand firm on his appointments unless there's actual hard evidence rather than suspicions, accusations and rumors.
     
  14. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    One of the hardest things to learn when dealing with a narcissist is that so many things are pointless. Debating them is pointless. Defending yourself in arguments is pointless. Trying to reach their expectations is pointless. Hoping they will change is pointless. It's all completely pointless.

    You can argue with yourself from now on Bill.
     
  15. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    Cool, i don't come here to argue, i just share valuable information for others to know what they are missing by watching Fox News, Newsmax and X.

    It's all good by me, you ignore my posts and i'll ignore yours.

    I'm sure everyone reading along will be better for it.
     
  16. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    I could dig out the information regarding the latest sources that released this last Signal chat Tom, but it's not important. The reality is the trump administration will conduct their own interviews (with those involved and they are not Biden people but appointments by those in the trump orbit). If they find he did the same dumb thing again, they will have no choice but to let him go, along with his friends and relatives.

    I suspect we agree, trump can't afford to keep people around him who keep making bad choices; and using the Signal app was a bad choice. Once burned, twice fired.
     
  17. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    Pope Francis was hardly a far left wing progressive, but the views of the Church are basically from from 1378 when that nasty French Pope thing was settled. Since then we have had the Inquisition, the Reformation, the religious wars of the 1600s, Spanish in Mexico, Central America, South America with “converting” and exploiting the people and their mineral wealth under the supervision of the Jesuits, schools in Canada, selling out to the Nazis during WWII, abuse priests and a Pope who didn’t care so the Church made him a saint and finally a Pope who appointed many minority Cardinals which have pissed the fossil Cardinals in Europe along with recognizing that the LGBTQ+ community is made up of humans beings just like you and me. What’s the current word around the voting, some white guy who will turn back the slowly until a real reactionary can be elected.
    Sorry Josie but this bunch is so predictable. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong.
     
  18. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

  19. FYI

    FYI Well-Known Member

    I do believe it was the Biden administration that authorized the DoD to use the Signal app?
     
  20. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    Prove it.
     
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