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Discussion in 'Sun City General Discussions' started by FYI, Aug 18, 2024.

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  1. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    I just watched the best Bill Maher report on his dinner with Trump. I will not post do to it being Maher (language), but it was very open, honest, good opinions, bad opinions and very funny. If you have an X account look for it. Both sides of the aisle will enjoy it.
     
  2. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    My apologies (no, not really but it sounds polite), but this is just too ridiculous to let slide. You know, i'm not a big fan of some of trump's underwhelming choices for positions in his cabinet and agency heads. I know some of you value the size of persons bank account far more than their life's accomplishments. Some of you value their position as a FOX news host who could read the news more so than whether they could understand the complexities of a job demanding real skills. To each their own eh?

    This header (link attached here) was just too precious not to share:
    "Education Secretary Linda McMahon confuses AI with A.1."
    I shirt's you not. And to be clear, she didn't say it once, she said A. 1. three times. Here's the cut regarding A.1.'s response to her error:
    'Every school should have access to A.1.'
    A.1. Sauce even capitalized on McMahon's blunder by posting an Instagram post on their verified account saying, "You heard her. Every school should have access to A.1."

    "Agree, best to start them early," the picture attached to the post reads.

    Other Instagram users loved the response from the Kraft Heinz-owned brand. One user even commented, "I will be buying a bottle or two because of this post."


    I imagine even the most ardent trump supporter recognize the irony of this coming from the mouth of Secretary of Education. These blunders are straight from the pages of a Saturday Night Live (SNL) skit...except they happen day after day, fodder for the next 4 years eh?
     
  3. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    We had a president for 4 years who thought he was the head of NATO, looked for a dead Congresswoman at a speech he was making, tried to shake hands with imaginary people, shall I go on? This is low even for you bill.

    Are you sure you want this thread removed?? You seem to really enjoy posting here.
     
  4. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    Remember, Biden is gone, trump is the president. Stay focused.

    And to answer your question, as long as this thread remains here, i will happily share the foibles and missteps of 47 et al. They are plentiful in abundance and unlimited in the quality of being uniquely bizarre.

    BTW, how did you feel about Linda and her A. 1. sauce being put in every school? Personally i used to prefer A. 1. over ketchup.
     
  5. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    I didn't read it, however I don't know of anyone who is perfect. As far as Biden is concerned he is fair game as he was elected POTUS. That does not go away. The gaffes of his administration will always reign supreme.

    I am looking forward to the tell all books coming out. Jake Tapper has authored one, and two more from inside Biden's administration.
     
  6. Josie P

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  8. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    Right on Bill, readers are leaders. President Harry S Truman.
    So, making the 2017 Trump tax cuts permanent which added $4T to the deficit and wanting to pass another tax which the upper 1% will benefit most clocking in at $6T is going to solve what? Not the debt you seem so concerned about. All this chainsaw cuts with no research by a bunch inexperienced yahoos and captained by Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Apartheid is in his self interest. These cuts are harming everyday people, who are having buyers remorse for voting for this clown.

    Since you are a vet, doesn’t the deep cuts to necessary programs bother you? No, apparently it is the Afghanistan withdrawal that has you with your hair on fire. You ignore the fact that Trump negotiated that deal and Biden’s administration has a few months to develop an action plan.How many vets die each day by suicide or doesn’t that fit your view of the VA. Services are being cut to Vietnam vets but I don’t hear a peep out of you on that.

    To enlighten you on Social Security, it comes from a trust fund, not operational from tax revenue.

    Turn off those propaganda stations and read up on the economy, budget, the financial markets, etc.

    I see Newsmax got the high hard one on the Dominion Voting machine case. Couldn’t happen to a nicer fake news organization.
     
  9. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    After telling the press corp aboard Air Force 1 the other day about how much he respects the Supreme Court, this headline appeared:
    Trump Just Defied the Supreme Court. What Is John Roberts Going to Do About It?

    Kind of say it all doesn't it, trump respects no one.
     
  10. FYI

    FYI Well-Known Member

  11. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    Tommy, Tommy, Tommy, rather than debate the issue or listen to a dirt bag like SM, here's the court order. Falling back to an earlier order is silliness:
    _________________
    _________________
    1Cite as: 604 U. S. ____ (2025)
    SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES
    No. 24A949
    KRISTI NOEM, SECRETARY, DEPARTMENT OF
    HOMELAND SECURITY, ET AL. v. KILMAR
    ARMANDO ABREGO GARCIA, ET AL .
    ON APPLICATION TO VACATE INJUNCTION ENTERED BY THE
    UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF
    MARYLAND
    [April 10, 2025]
    On March 15, 2025, the United States removed Kilmar
    Armando Abrego Garcia from the United States to El Sal-
    vador, where he is currently detained in the Center for Ter-
    rorism Confinement (CECOT). The United States acknowl-
    edges that Abrego Garcia was subject to a withholding
    order forbidding his removal to El Salvador, and that the
    removal to El Salvador was therefore illegal. The United
    States represents that the removal to El Salvador was the
    result of an “administrative error.” The United States al-
    leges, however, that Abrego Garcia has been found to be a
    member of the gang MS–13, a designated foreign terrorist
    organization, and that his return to the United States
    would pose a threat to the public. Abrego Garcia responds
    that he is not a member of MS–13, and that he has lived
    safely in the United States with his family for a decade and
    has never been charged with a crime.
    On Friday, April 4, the United States District Court for
    the District of Maryland entered an order directing the Gov-
    ernment to “facilitate and effectuate the return of [Abrego
    Garcia] to the United States by no later than 11:59 PM on
    Monday, April 7.” On the morning of April 7, the United
    States filed this application to vacate the District Court’s
    order. THE CHIEF JUSTICE entered an administrative stay
    and subsequently referred the application to the Court.
    The application is granted in part and denied in part,
    subject to the direction of this order. Due to the adminis-
    trative stay issued by THE CHIEF JUSTICE, the deadline im-
    posed by the District Court has now passed. To that extent,
    the Government’s emergency application is effectively
    granted in part and the deadline in the challenged order is
    no longer effective. The rest of the District Court’s order
    remains in effect but requires clarification on remand. The
    order properly requires the Government to “facilitate”
    Abrego Garcia’s release from custody in El Salvador and to
    ensure that his case is handled as it would have been had
    he not been improperly sent to El Salvador. The intended
    scope of the term “effectuate” in the District Court’s order
    is, however, unclear, and may exceed the District Court’s
    authority. The District Court should clarify its directive,
    with due regard for the deference owed to the Executive
    Branch in the conduct of foreign affairs. For its part, the
    Government should be prepared to share what it can con-
    cerning the steps it has taken and the prospect of further
    steps. The order heretofore entered by THE CHIEF JUSTICE
    is vacated.
    Statement of JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR, with whom JUSTICE
    KAGAN and JUSTICE JACKSON join, respecting the Court’s
    disposition of the application.
    The United States Government arrested Kilmar Ar-
    mando Abrego Garcia in Maryland and flew him to a “ter-
    rorism confinement center” in El Salvador, where he has
    been detained for 26 days and counting. To this day, the
    Government has cited no basis in law for Abrego Garcia’s
    warrantless arrest, his removal to El Salvador, or his con-
    finement in a Salvadoran prison. Nor could it. The Gov-
    ernment remains bound by an Immigration Judge’s 2019
    order expressly prohibiting Abrego Garcia’s removal to El
    Salvador because he faced a “clear probability of future per-
    secution” there and “demonstrated that [El Salvador’s] au-
    thorities were and would be unable or unwilling to protect
    him.” App. to Application To Vacate Injunction 13a. The
    Government has not challenged the validity of that order.
    Instead of hastening to correct its egregious error, the
    Government dismissed it as an “oversight.” Decl. of R.
    Cerna in No. 25–cv–951 (D Md., Mar. 31, 2025), ECF Doc.
    11–3, p. 3. The Government now requests an order from
    this Court permitting it to leave Abrego Garcia, a husband
    and father without a criminal record, in a Salvadoran
    prison for no reason recognized by the law. The only argu-
    ment the Government offers in support of its request, that
    United States courts cannot grant relief once a deportee
    crosses the border, is plainly wrong. See Rumsfeld v. Pa-
    dilla, 542 U. S. 426, 447, n. 16 (2004); cf. Boumediene v.
    Bush, 553 U. S. 723, 732 (2008). The Government’s argu-
    ment, moreover, implies that it could deport and incarcer-
    ate any person, including U. S. citizens, without legal con-
    sequence, so long as it does so before a court can intervene.
    See Trump v. J. G. G., 604 U. S. ___, ___ (2025)
    (SOTOMAYOR, J., dissenting) (slip op., at 8). That view re-
    futes itself.
    Because every factor governing requests for equitable re-
    lief manifestly weighs against the Government, Nken v.
    Holder, 556 U. S. 418, 426 (2009), I would have declined to
    intervene in this litigation and denied the application in
    full.
    Nevertheless, I agree with the Court’s order that the
    proper remedy is to provide Abrego Garcia with all the pro-
    cess to which he would have been entitled had he not been
    unlawfully removed to El Salvador. That means the Gov-
    ernment must comply with its obligation to provide Abrego
    Garcia with “due process of law,” including notice and an
    opportunity to be heard, in any future proceedings. Reno v.
    Flores, 507 U. S. 292, 306 (1993). It must also comply with
    its obligations under the Convention Against Torture. See
    Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel and Inhuman
    or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, Dec. 10, 1984, S.
    Treaty Doc. No. 100–20, 1465 U. N. T. S. 113. Federal law
    governing detention and removal of immigrants continues,
    of course, to be binding as well. See 8 U. S. C. §1226(a) (re-
    quiring a warrant before a noncitizen “may be arrested and
    detained pending a decision” on removal); 8 CFR
    §287.8(c)(2)(ii) (2024) (requiring same); see also 8 CFR
    §241.4(l) (in order to revoke conditional release, the Gov-
    ernment must provide adequate notice and “promptly” ar-
    range an “initial informal interview . . . to afford the alien
    an opportunity to respond to the reasons for the revocation
    stated in the notification”). Moreover, it has been the Gov-
    ernment’s own well-established policy to “facilitate [an] al-
    ien’s return to the United States if . . . the alien’s presence
    is necessary for continued administrative removal proceed-
    ings” in cases where a noncitizen has been removed pending
    immigration proceedings. See U. S. Immigration and Cus-
    toms Enforcement, Directive 11061.1, Facilitating the Re-
    turn to the United States of Certain Lawfully Removed Al-
    iens, §2 (Feb. 24, 2012).
    In the proceedings on remand, the District Court should
    continue to ensure that the Government lives up to its obli-
    gations to follow the law.

    Come on bro, Stephen Miller; really?
     
  12. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    As long as we are chatting, the US is paying the El Salvador 6 million dollars to house them. Can you tell me with a straight face, that if trump tells Bukele to send him back that good old fun-loving Nayid will tell him to pound salt?

    The rule of law, co-equal branches of government and the entire due process system are on trial here. Either we have it, believe in it, or we just let trump do what he wants.
     
  13. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    Not a word about the murders, rapes, drug overdoses of our children. Democrats LOVE MS 13, even embrace them and other gang members, but appear to hate the children of this country. Pelosi said:
    MS-13 Gangbangers Possess 'Spark of Divinity'
    Bill said:
    This man is a paragon of manliness

    https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1911864478091591961
     
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  14. FYI

    FYI Well-Known Member

    Uh-oh!!!! Looks like we're about to hear the "I" word again (impeachment).

    Nobody seemed to care when Joe violated the Supreme Court 3 times over his forgiveness of student loans!

    It's the same old story how the criminals end-up becoming the victims.

    If he's illegal and MS-13, let him rot in El Salvador. Why go thru the expense of a dog and pony show just so the court can make it official, yeah, he needs to be deported!
     
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  15. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

  16. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    Wow, accusations of loving gang members! Hardly the case, i am however a big, BIG, really BIG fan of the following: The rule of law, co-equal branches of government and the entire due process system, which are now on trial here. Either we have it, believe in it, or we just let trump do what he wants.

    There is a bright ray of sunshine in your world coming from me: When Stephen Miller stands next to trump on the stage, the donald is easily the better of the two from a strictly humanistic standpoint. But enough nice things being said about Mr trump because the next question gets ugly, really butt ugly.

    Stay tuned. I can hardly wait to hear your answer.

    PS. Kudos to Rory for winning the Masters this weekend and putting the Saudi backed LIV money grabbers in the cheap seats where they belong. Thank God, for some, money is everything.

    PPS. Note to Tom, the government has not proven anything about his gang affiliation. So when you say this: "If he's illegal and MS-13, let him rot in El Salvador. Why go thru the expense of a dog and pony show just so the court can make it official, yeah, he needs to be deported!" The answer is clear and simple; prove it, show us something? Anything? Instead...NOTHING.

     
  17. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

  18. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    Want me to count how many times you said I hate Sun City, yet never once proved it? The guy was here illegally Bill, period.
     
  19. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    So you would rather take the word of an illegal than a DHS informant,
     
  20. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    Biden is gone, thank God!. However we still talk about Many former presidents. They and what they did does not vaporize. They die, but the memories live on.
     
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