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Discussion in 'Sun City General Discussions' started by FYI, Aug 18, 2024.

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  1. carptrash

    carptrash Well-Known Member

    Well we are getting to see what "proper leadership" looks like now and I do not find it comforting.
     
  2. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    See how easy this is on reaching agreement; the whole Afgan debacle could have all been avoided had there been good leadership when trump negotiated the withdrawal from the country and those 5000 terrorists released back into the fray. You know the one Tom, that point where the Afghanistan leadership wasn't even present for. Shameful for sure. Who in the flock would run (ruin) a country like that?

    As far as those shipped to El Salvador, please provide a list of the names to prove those swept up were in fact gang bangers. It's called DUE PROCESS and you can't be that far removed from the idea those removed should at the very least be identified...ARE YOU?
     
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  3. FYI

    FYI Well-Known Member

    What part of "Due Process" doesn't include deporting those who have illegally entered our Country?
     
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  4. Josie P

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  6. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    I know, i know, picking and choosing what parts of the constitution trump likes and doesn't like is a MAGA thang, but the reality of the answer is simply this Tom: "Yes, regardless of their immigration status, all individuals, including undocumented immigrants, are entitled to due process under the U.S. Constitution. This means they are guaranteed fair legal proceedings and protection against arbitrary denial of life, liberty, or property."

    How about we do a little deeper dive about due process, i'm certain most of you are adamant the Constitution of this country we all love is upheld and all of us living here enjoy the guarantees provided under it:
    Here's a more detailed explanation:
    • Constitutional Protections:
      The Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments of the U.S. Constitution protect the right to due process, which applies to everyone, regardless of their immigration status.
    • Legal Precedents:
      Courts have consistently affirmed that undocumented immigrants are entitled to due process, as seen in cases like Zadvydas v. Davis (2001).
    • Examples of Due Process Rights:
      This includes the right to a fair hearing, the right to be informed of charges, the right to present a defense, and the right to appeal unfavorable decisions.
    • Immigration Court Proceedings:
      Undocumented immigrants who are ordered to leave the country can fight deportation through civil proceedings in immigration court, where they have the right to due process.
    • Right to Remain Silent:
      If stopped by immigration or law enforcement, undocumented individuals have the right to remain silent and refuse to answer questions about their immigration status.
    • Other Constitutional Rights:
      Undocumented immigrants also have other constitutional rights, such as protection against unreasonable searches and seizures.
    • Due Process Defined:
      Due process ensures fair legal procedures and protects against arbitrary actions by the government that could deprive someone of their life, liberty, or property.
     
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  7. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    Laken Riley......Where was her due process and all the other girls raped and killed by illegal gang members. Would you change your tune if it was your wife, gone forever, would you be calling to bring them back for due process??
     
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  8. FYI

    FYI Well-Known Member

    No, it was a Biden thing. He's the one who refused to use the existing laws to prevent the invasion of illegals. He didn't even listen to the Supreme Court when he was told not once, not twice, but three times that he couldn't forgive student loans but he continued to try and do it!

    Those that were deported were classified as terrorist. Trump had them classified as that during his first term but Joe removed that classification and opened the borders.

    Don't talk to me about who's following the Constitution and who's not. We have the last 4 years to see the results of that, and we'll see how the next 4 years ends up.

    Open Borders, no cash bail, sanctuary cities. How'd all that work out?
     
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  9. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    As usual bill exits stage left. Can't answer the question, or maybe he would let the murderer come back, hire a lawyer, go thru months/years of "due process" for the murder of someone he loved.
     
  10. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member


    Bill?? Bill?? I don't think Lori would be happy with this.
     
  11. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    Focus Tom, focus. Everyday is another day you all own. Quit worrying about back then, focus on today's latest fiasco...endless brother endless.

    We should start a lottery though...number of additional children fathered by Leon and for bonus points, how many different women?
     
  12. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    Focus Bill, Focus. Laken Riley......Where was her due process and all the other girls raped and killed by illegal gang members. Would you change your tune if it was Lori, gone forever, would you be calling to bring them back for due process?? You won't answer so I can only assume she doesn't matter. Laken Riley's parents care. Can you even imagine listening to someone you love screaming for their life for 15 minutes?

    You know my dislike for you was never about the dog. You made that up. It came many years later. I will find it. You hate and you don't care about anything but yourself. You are not normal.
     
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  13. FYI

    FYI Well-Known Member

    I will gladly own the next four years.
    But it's back then that got us into the mess that Trump is trying to get us out of! And yes, it goes much farther back then just 4 years.
    Now you're starting to sound like Dave. His name is Elon not Leon!
    Oooh! We should all be so lucky! :)
     
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  14. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    I know you better that that Tom. You always struck me as a "family values guy," and frankly i am pretty sure you still are.

    I'm more than happy to watch the show unfold, but the security breach is just the tip of the iceberg. It's what happens when you promote uniquely unqualified people into important positions who simply have no clue what they are doing. Much like you spent the past 4 years evaluating and highlighting Biden's mistakes, expect the same back at you.

    And i truly do know you are smarter than the answers we heard from the Signal debacle the past two days. Tulsi's "i don't recall" over and over again made her sound like a moron and trump's denial of "not knowing anything" is a song that's been sung too many times before. And so i'm even more clear, you don't have to own anything, i expect the president and all his men to take ownership of the good (hopefully there's some/plenty) along with the ugly (and i/we?? know there will be more than a fair share of that.
     
  15. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    OMG...it's late, my brain is fried and i don't have the energy or the heart to do justice to tomorrow's topic du jour.

    Suffice it to say, it may well move the "holy spirit" in you to chime in. Just in time for Easter eh?

    OMG!
     
  16. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member


    So funny. you still never answered my question if Lori was raped/killed by gang members>< You good with that? you want tor to come back for due prosess after killing your wife. What a sick person
     
  17. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    And you wonder why SCW is better. There is a better class of people;
     
  18. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    Did Trump go to jail for negotiating that widrawl with the Taliban?
    Tom, sorry but you are so obtuse that it really surprises me and I am hard to surprise. You believe everything those Republican bozos say. Nothing like alienating a part of our population that citizens. We don’t know if the deputed ones were bad because of no due process of law. You might have heard of that and the rule of law. As for your Bible quote, I believe Jesus was defending pro bono a prostitute. You don’t live by that religious nonsense so why put window dressing up. At least I saw through that almost 60 years ago and I am a better person for it.
     
  19. FYI

    FYI Well-Known Member

    But if they're on terrorist watch list why waste the courts time?
    You have no idea how I live.
    Yes Dave, you keep believing that. You're just perfect!
     
  20. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    Back in a few, but to get us started, let's throw out the name and the number:
    Paula White.
    $1000.00

    What freaking fun eh?
     
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