Purely Politics

Discussion in 'Sun City General Discussions' started by FYI, Aug 18, 2024.

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  1. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    I find it's easier to just skip past the word salad and go straight to the last sentence of your posts. Yes we all have our beliefs. I believe letting 300 migrant children just disappear is about as bad as it gets.

    That being said why do you post here if you believe this is a "crappy political thread"?
     
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  2. FYI

    FYI Well-Known Member

    I think it's already been proven that much of what Trump has been accused of is false and fell apart in court. It also appears that those who brought those charges are much more corrupt than Trump. And to take it even farther and impeach a president who no longer is in power??? Give me a break. If that isn't just pure hatred nothing is.

    I don't hear the Dem's condemning the destruction of Tesla's! Or when they were burning down Portland, CNN was reporting a basically peaceful demonstration while flames were erupting in the background!

    Isn't it funny how everybody just loved Trump when he was just a businessman in New York and had a top rated TV show. Even Oprah wanted him to run for President until he actually did. And oh, how the Dem's loved Elon Musk and his electric car when everybody wanted the New Green Deal!

    Now they are both hated because they are exposing the corruption that exists in our government, and yes, on both sides.

    And what did we learn today? We learned that Obama (aka community organizer) was pretending to send USAID aid dollars overseas but they were actually being used to train "rent-a-mobs."

    And the media on Left is simply incredible! You've got a guy in the name Jake Tapper who covered-up Joe Biden's mental acuity and serious decline for 4 years only to come out with a book telling the world how bad Joe really was! You can't make this crap up. He had to be writing that book while Joe was still in office and CNN was still hiding the truth because books just aren't published that fast!

    The Dem's hate that they are being exposed and their quest for unlimited power is in serious jeopardy not only now, but for years to come. The Dem Party is in such disarray they are beginning to eat their own! And what a wonderful sight to see!
     
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  3. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

  4. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    Let's try again one more time for all you trump lovers; Was January 6 one of the most disgusting and vile moments in this country's history? And your bonus question: Did trump cause it?

    See Tom, whining about Obama/Biden/BLM/Tesla may help assuage your inability for honesty about who and what trump is, but in the end, he is who and what he is. A phony charlatan/con man who you've embraced. I'll give him this; perhaps the greatest marketer of all time. He packaged himself by wrapping his body in the flag, the bible and more lies than they can track and you'll all ate them up.
     
  5. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    No, burning Minneapolis, Vietnam War, WWI, WWII, 9/11, giving 250 billion to Ukraine when our citizens were homeless from hurricanes and fires, allowing 11 million illegal aliens to cross our border many of which had been released from jails in other countries, Biden administration losing 300,000 children. Trump ordered National Guard for J6, guess who didn't do it? Precious Pelosi. Bill either you don't do much follow up research or you just prefer to keep pushing democrat lies.

    Riddle me this.......why are democrats so against Elon finding government waste? Do you think it's possible some are on the receiving end? Is the use of tax $$ ok for this research? Christina Dyar, an Ohio State assistant professor and researcher in the College of Nursing, was awarded a grant from the National Institute of Health in April 2024 totaling $699,000 to study cannabis use disorder in LGBTQ women. Cannabis is legal now!

    DOGE takes credit for canceled OSU grant studying LGBTQ women's cannabis use disorder


    Transcripts Show President Trump's Directives to Pentagon Leadership to "Keep January 6 Safe" Were Deliberately Ignored - Press Releases - United States Committee on House Administration

    NEW: Obtained HBO Footage Shows Pelosi Again Taking Responsibility for Capitol Security on January 6 - Press Releases - United States Committee on House Administration
     
  6. FYI

    FYI Well-Known Member

    I believe the jury is still out on J6 and time will prove me right. We already know that Pelosi blames herself for not accepting Trump's offer of National Guard troops. And we know that the inspector general revealed that the Department of Justice had 26 confidential human sources working for the FBI in Washington, D.C., during the protest. But the most vile and disgusting event in this country's history was surely the withdrawal from Afghanistan and if you can't admit to that then nothing you say holds any merit.

    As is Obama, Biden, BLM and others. The truth is being exposed, American's see it, and that's why Kamala isn't president and Trump is.

    Please show me where the Left is winning! You're buddy Hakeem Jeffries thinks so but he's suffering from the same disillusions as the rest of the Party. They think they're doing great but what they're doing is only digging their hole that much deeper.

    Republican Senator John Kennedy has it right, the Republican Plan to deal with the Dem's is called "Operation Let them Speak."

    I know we will never agree but you really need to take a good hard look at what your Party believes in...men in women's sports, really?
     
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  7. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    Here Bill, I don't want you to have to click on the link I provided..
    See below for a full breakdown of the Pentagon leaders' choices to ignore President Trump's directives.

    Days before January 6, 2021, President Trump met with senior Pentagon leaders urging them to do their jobs to protect lives and property. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Mark Milley, recalls a conversation between the Acting Secretary of Defense Chris Miller, and President Trump:

    Milley: “The President just says, ‘Hey, look at this. There’s going to be a large amount of protestors here on the 6th, make sure that you have sufficient National Guard or Soldiers to make sure it’s a safe event.’… [POTUS said] I don’t care if you use Guard, or Soldiers, active duty Soldiers, do whatever you have to do. Just make sure it’s safe.' [SecDef] Miller responds by saying, 'Hey, we’ve got a plan, and we’ve got it covered.'”

    On January 5, the Secretary of the Army, Ryan McCarthy, placed unprecedented restrictions on DCNG Commander Major General William Walker to prevent any movement to the Capitol without Secretary McCarthy’s explicit permission on January 6 and 7.

    On January 6, 2021, the outer perimeter on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol was breached by rioters at 12:53pm. The DCNG arrived five hours later. Click here to view the timeline.

    These transcripts prove President Trump’s senior Pentagon leaders were focused on OPTICS, instead of doing their job, as the Capitol was breached:

    Miller: “There was absolutely – there is absolutely no way I was putting U.S. military forces at the Capitol, period.”

    Director of the Army Staff, Lieutenant General Walter Piatt: “Was optics a concern for us as we prepared to use soldiers downtown in Washington D.C? Absolutely.”

    As “optics” concerns were being discussed and Secretary McCarthy claims he was ‘developing a plan’, the DCNG was ready to move, less than 2 miles from the Capitol – awaiting Secretary McCarthy’s authorization.

    Walker’s General Counsel, Colonel Earl Matthews: “We were seeing the Congress of the United States being overrun, and the Guard – and the Capitol Police, the MPD, they need help. We had people at the D.C. Armory who are able to help, and they’re not moving. They’re not allowed to move.”

    DCNG Command Sergeant Major Michael Brooks: “They were ready to go, and they just couldn’t understand why they were still sitting there. Literally sitting on a bus, just waiting to drive to the Capitol and do the best they could do to support Capitol Police.”

    At 3:04pm, Miller provided verbal approval to Secretary McCarthy for immediate deployment of the DCNG. What was Secretary McCarthy doing between receiving this approval, and 5:08pm, when the order eventually reaches the D.C. National Guard? Why didn’t he communicate this approval for a full two hours?

    At 3:18pm, Secretary McCarthy told Congressional Democrat Leadership that the DC National Guard had the “green light” and “is moving”. Two hours would pass before Secretary McCarthy’s deployment order would ACTUALLY be communicated to the DCNG.

    In these vital hours, the DCNG had been trying but was unable to reach Secretary McCarthy.

    DCNG Adjutant General Aaron Dean: “[Walker] tried to call Secretary McCarthy three times between 2:30 and 5pm. He said, ‘I haven’t heard from him all day.’ When he tried to call his cell phone, it went straight to voicemail.”
     
  8. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    Nobody is winning anything Tom, the country is in worse shape than ever, and given what is going on it will only get worse.

    As far as the Afghanistan withdrawal, take a step back in time when trump negotiated the coming shit-show with the Taliban and left the Afghan government out of the talks. You know, the one where he released 5000 "prisoners" back into the fray. Gee, sounds a lot like the recent talks with the Soviets as they tried to figure out how to carve up the Ukraine eh?

    Everything in life is transactional to trump....EVERYTHING. When you have no morals, no values and the only thing that matters is what he can get out of it personally, pretty easy to predict the outcomes.

    There is no "jury still out on J 6," that ship sailed long ago Tom. The bullshit about Pelosi has been dispelled a hundred times. Keep posting links to the oddball websites like Gateway Pundit and the slew of other conspiracy theory freaks the permeate the internet and your credibility loses all steam. In the meantime. keep searching for the Pizza shop and the basement where they keep the kids for the democrats to eat or whatever craziness they touted.

    And by all means, watch closely as crazy RFK pushes the horrors of vaccinating children and the death toll mounts. Yes Janet, clown show is the only description that fits the cast of characters that are so far over their heads. I'm always amazed by how smart people are so emotionally invested in people who are so uniquely unqualified. Talk about drinking the koolaid; Jim Jones would be proud.

    Like i said earlier, we'll see how this turns out. So far, the results are pretty unimpressive. Well, with one exception, this headline pretty well defines it all for the trump faithful:
    Congressional Republicans’ Budget Plans Would Force America’s Working Class To Foot the Bill for Tax Cuts for the Wealthy.
     
  9. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    Hunter is not a public official and the Republicans have investigated him for four years and came up with noth8ng. If fact that Congressman from KY who ran the investigation stated at the end “We have nothing” and this bunch had the laptop. Clown show indeed.
     
  10. FYI

    FYI Well-Known Member

    Now I know for sure you just make crap up. Pelosi's own, so called, journalist daughter has Nancy on video admitting it was her fault the military wasn't there.
     
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  11. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    I posted links to her admitting she was wrong. I posted a link to the generals admitting they did not follow Trumps orders for the national guard. Just because Bill Pearson says something doesn't make it true. Follow up with proof. Just saw this. Watch till the end.

    https://x.com/ImMeme0/status/1903939949851824229
     
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  12. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    They just make it up as they go. Never a legit news source to back up their wild imaginations.
     
  13. FYI

    FYI Well-Known Member

    And that's exactly why he and his sister did not deserve a security team! And all of the others who don't deserve to have a security clearance anymore!
     
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  14. Janet Curry

    Janet Curry Well-Known Member

    Plus there are many people behind bars who were not public officials. That is where Hunter belongs.
     
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  15. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    See you at the midterms and find out how popular the racist Neo Nazi Africaaner, president Le Grand Orange ( look that one up) and the rest of the spineless jellyfish Republican Congress is with the population. Anybody seen Abe yet and what is he doing besides making arrangements for chip factories that are already here.
     
  16. Janet Curry

    Janet Curry Well-Known Member

    This discussion is pointless. January 6th was a horrible day for America. Letting hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens enter our country unvetted was insane. Sending billions of dollars overseas for questionable projects while letting our own citizens fend for themselves is ridiculous. Using Social Security funds for other programs is unconscionable but has been going on for decades no matter who was president or controlled Congress. Many Congressmen, including Republican Mitch McConnell and Democrat Nancy Pelosi, seem to have profited immensely while serving in DC. The $36+ Trillion national debt is out of control. Both parties are responsible for that. Many of the people pardoned by President Biden and President Trump should still be behind bars or held responsible for whatever they did. We, as US citizens and voters, have allowed this to happen. Everyone is to blame! I am leaving this thread and won't be reading anything others decide to post.
     
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  17. Josie P

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  18. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    More guns baby, more guns. Who can ever forget those much loved Christmas cards featuring republicans and the entire family cradling their AR 15's. I especially loved the little ones with fully automatic weapons nestled in their tiny arms.

    What a powerful message to send, especially in states with tragic school shootings. Thoughts and prayers around the Christmas tree eh?
     
  19. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

  20. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    I'll make a rare exception and respond to a poster i mostly ignore, especially since she told us all she was "done here" (don't hold your breath).

    It's truly a teachable moment captured in the remark quoted above. I've written it more times than i can remember; "this is just one man's opinion." That's what i have said repeatedly and while i have the courage of my convictions, they are just my opinions. I can detail history as i remember it, both recent and not so recent, but it's always just what i remember.

    On the other hand, and the reason i struggle with some of those on the right who think trump is infallible, it's because most of us that have the capacity to be honest understand he is a mere mortal. In fact, a deeply flawed one at that. Which is exactly why i made the point regarding his remarks on asking God for forgiveness, he is incapable of admitting his faults or failures' even to God (how arrogant is that?).

    But wait, it gets worse. Josie's remark's about "never being wrong" is classic trump-think-speak. I've been more than willing to let history decide if this whole tariffs debacle is going to leave us as a country swimming in cash. That was literally his answer for every question asked about the economy, taxes and social ills. Tariff's would be the salvation/solution...barrels of money flowing into the country from all those scoundrels cheating us.

    Maybe? But the reality is the vast majority of economists and financial gurus have all told him it won't work. Is there an outside chance trump is smarter than all of the experts? We'll see and then we can decide who was right and who was wrong? That's more than fair from my liberal perspective.

    There's the difference between those of us on the left and the hard core MAGA. In their eyes trump will always be right. And of course, it will always be someone else's fault when he fails. Blame and ownership simply isn't in his lexicon and after reading the above remark from the poster, hers either.

    And as always, this is just one man's opinion.
     
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