Members Meeting Bombshell

Discussion in 'Sun City General Discussions' started by John Fast, Feb 26, 2025.

  1. John Fast

    John Fast Well-Known Member

    ANNOUNCEMENT REGARDING
    PROPOSED MOTIONS


    The Board had received many proposed motions submitted by members. All the motions relate to matters concerning the conduct of the business affairs of the Corporation and deserve further study and research by the Board and Management.

    Therefore, pursuant to the provisions of Bylaws, Article IV, Section 4, the Board has elected to study the business and financial effects of the proposed motions.
    The motions will not be voted on at the Members’ meeting pending their review by the Board. The Board will, within a reasonable time, announce its decision regarding the business and financial effects of the proposed motions for the information and consideration of the membership.
    RCSC Members unable to attend this meeting may designate a Proxy to be counted towards the quorum total (500 Members required).

    In spite of this maneuver by the board to not allow meaningful business to be conducted at the member's meeting I am still encouraging members to attend and hear them out. For all those that attend please be civil and courteous. It is always ok to ask the tough questions but please make an extra effort to do it in a way that does not reflect badly on Sun City.
     
  2. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    Sorry, I think that ship has sailed. The Board took away the civility. I hope a professional company comes in to fix this broken city.
     
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2025
  3. OneDayAtATime

    OneDayAtATime Well-Known Member

    This is what I wrote on the FB group "Everything to Know about (the) RCSC in Del Webb's Original Sun City:
    Shocked! Stunned! Disappointed in our elected BOD!! The rules seem to have been changed again.
    We were told that we could make changes to the Bylaws at the Annual Membership Meeting. After receiving the Email Blast at 6:08 pm, we discovered that the BOD has changed their minds. Instead of listening to the Members and trying to bring the community together, they have decided to drive the wedge deeper.
    Please do think about attending the next BOD meeting this Thursday, February 27 at 9 am at the Sundial Auditorium. However, we will only be allowed to speak on the posted motions.
    And on Monday, March 10th at 9 am at the Sundial Auditorium the Exchange meeting will be held. THIS MEETING IS WHERE ANY MEMBER IN GOOD STANDING IS ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON ANY CONCERN THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE. It is the day before the Annual Membership Meeting.
    This is what the bylaw Definition states:
    1. “Business Affairs of the Corporation” is defined as all matters conducted by the Corporation, excluding amendment of Bylaws, that are not in violation of its Corporate Documents or The Arizona Nonprofit Corporation Act in effect at the time the matter is conducted.
    SECTION 1: ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP MEETING
    An annual meeting of the Members will be held each year. (OF THE MEMBERS!)
    SECTION 4: MEMBERSHIP MEETING RULES AND REGULATIONS
    Robert’s Rules of Order will govern procedure at all meetings of the Corporation provided they are consistent with the laws of the State of Arizona and the Corporate Documents. A Parliamentarian may be present at the discretion of the President.
    The Bylaws may be amended, modified, revised or revoked by the Directors or by the Members. In the event of conflict concerning the Bylaws as amended, modified, revised or revoked by the directors, the action of the Members will prevail. Proposals or matters relating to the conduct of the business affairs of the Corporation, if brought before a Membership meeting, will be referred to the Board for study. Such matters, being solely within the powers delegated to the Board in accordance with the laws of the State of Arizona and Corporate Documents, will be considered only as a recommendation to the Board.

    We were instructed that we could turn in Motions to Revise Corporate Bylaws. That's what several did. They were not proposals or matters relating to the conduct of the business affairs. That means anything brought forth is going to be sent to study. The Members do not prevail.

    My second post:
    According to the email blast sent yesterday at 6:08 pm, the Annual Membership Meeting (not a Board meeting but OUR meeting) is now a farce. There is nothing on the agenda from the Membership. There is no reason to have a proxy.
    The only item on the agenda is from the Board (at OUR Membership Meeting) and it is called "Adoption of the Special Rules of Order." No one on this side of the stage knows what that means.
    The Board has a lawyer to turn to, and WE PAY HIM. We have no lawyer.
    Please don't do anything just yet regarding the proxies that you have gathered.
    We are not allowed to do anything at the Board meeting tomorrow, the 27th, but the EXCHANGE is on March 10th. That meeting we can speak at.
    I will be at Fairway for about 2 hours today - out in front - because Members have been looking for me so they can sign the Petition to ask the Board to terminate the GM. YES, WE ARE STILL GATHERING SIGNATURES.

    My third post:
    I don't know all the answers. I'm not a lawyer. I don't know what the BOD is up to. I can't answer all your questions. I have been going off the premise that once the Quorum was reached, the meeting belonged to us. It appears that the Board thinks otherwise. It seems to me that the Board could have called a Special Meeting to explain what is going on, but they have chosen to do nothing but issue confusion.
    What I can say:
    According to the agenda issued, the Quorum count will be the first thing decided.
    Next on the agenda is a new item: "Adoption of the Special Rules of Order" that no one has bothered to explain. I don't know if this is something that is going to require a Membership vote or if the Board is just pushing this through because they can.
    In the past, the Quorum would be established; the first Member making a Motion would be called to the podium to state their Motion to the Bylaws, discussion would follow, and a vote would be taken.
    This agenda shows no motions. The Members have nothing to bring to the meeting because the Board has decided to pull rank and take all of our properly submitted Motions off the table to "study."
    It seems that the "business" section of the meeting would then be concluded. In the past, the AMM would then become an Exchange where Members could talk on any issue.
    If you have already turned in your Proxies, nothing can be done. Hopefully, you took a picture of them or scanned them so you know how many and who you have.

    If you haven't turned in your Proxies, the due date time HAS BEEN CHANGED by the BOD. Instead of noon on March 5th, it is now 4 pm.

    I'm sorry that I can't answer the questions.
     
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