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Discussion in 'Sun City General Discussions' started by FYI, Aug 18, 2024.

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  1. FYI

    FYI Well-Known Member

    So there you go again, changing the issue. I believe the initial question wasn't necessarily about a woman's right to have an abortion, it was whether or not the federal government had the right to govern abortion.

    I was using that comparison to be in line with the elimination of the Department of Education.

    So....just to be clear, the enumerated powers of the federal government does not include governance over the right of abortion and that's why Roe v Wade was overturned and sent back to the States. Similarly, they don't have governance over education and therefore it needs to go back to the States and out of the hands of the federal government.

    I believe this all falls in line with the recent Chevron decision where the court kinda concluded that these federal agencies and departments can't make and enforce their own laws.

    We the People only gave Congress the legislative power to make laws in Article I, Section 1, we did not give them the authority to give that power away. It's their job to make laws and not to make additional legislators!
     
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  2. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    I'm enjoying the soap opera of a lifetime and while "flooding the zone with shit" has become the new normal, let's cut to the chase and get to the meat of what this has always been about. I know, i know, those danged price of eggs (highest ever) and gas and all the other whining was mere child's play for those unable to focus and pay attention, this paragraph says it all...no, screams it all:
    "Mike Johnson and House Republicans on Wednesday released their budget plan, which would raise the debt ceiling by $4 trillion in order to dole out $4.5 trillion in tax cuts to the wealthy. They also threw in $2 trillion of compulsory cuts to Medicaid, which could make health care even more expensive and inaccessible for large swathes of America."

    Pass the popcorn and just keep your eye on the prize as those billionaires are rewarded for climbing aboard the trump train. Oh yeah, and all of the non-billionaires bought the bullshit about "passing policies on day 1 to lower prices." Right.

    Carry on, my work here is done. The truth of the right has shown its ugly face and the only ones smiling are those that already have it all. Enough is never enough.

    $4.5 trillion in tax cuts to the wealthy; indeed...cue the music and tell me all about trickle down economics.
     
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  3. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    Sorry Tom, what you were asking was just a bit opaque. I took your question as to where in the Constitution was legal and I answered as such. I was not trying to change the subject.

    Samuel Alito, in overturning Roe stated that there was not a substantial Federal question. I believe I raised three questions. He and Slappy Thomas have been making ridiculous rulings based on logic that is questionable. Case in point was a recent gun case where Slappy said that gun control was fine as long as it was covered by gun laws passed prior to, I believe, 1850. There were no gun laws prior to that year as the government relied on State militias to fill out the army. Look at what made up the army from the Revolutionary War through WWI, State militias. These were disbanded in the 1920s and replaced with what we know as the National Guard. Consequently you can see why his logic was absolutely bonkers. Alito concurred with this nonsense.
     
  4. Josie P

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  6. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    The day I believe anything Jessie Waters says is the day I start drinking heavily.
    That other harpy doing the indignant Congress dude routine, still no proof of all these allegations. Snowflake.

    Actually no empirical proof has been shown in any of these actions. What I see is what a corporate raider from the 70’s and 80’s did. He was known as Chainsaw Al who would buy companies, fire almost everybody and when the company wasn’t profitable he fire everyone left, sell off what assets were left and raid the pension fund. History does repeat itself and I am watching it from my longe chair.
     
  7. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    Whatever
     
  8. FYI

    FYI Well-Known Member

    Perhaps Dave would rather believe Rachel Maddow and her fake news story about Trump buying armored Tesla's for the military, when the truth is, Biden authorized that purchase and Trump actually canceled that order!
     
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  9. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    Perhaps Dave really doesn't matter.
     
  10. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    WTF are you talking about? What death threat? If you are trying to intimidate me, go outside and pracrptice for an hour or so then come back and try again.

    And after Kash Patel receives it will he give to the Russkies and Jessie Waters?
     
  11. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    Today in Stupid Crap from Trump: Delta plane crash in Toronto and Trump starts to fire air traffic controllers. We have a shortage of air traffic controllers and he starts to fire them. Driving anywhere looks better than flying the dangerous skies.

    Trump math: President Elon’s Dodgey cuts two trillion from budget hoping to reduce National debt. Sniveling House Speaker promotes $4.2T tax cut for wealthy, net gain to National debt $2.2T to be paid by what’s left of middle class. Did they drop out of Sesame Street School?

    Oopppsss I did it again: Trump finds he needs those people in the nuclear weapon sector, especially the ones President Musk fired that assemble the bombs.

    Gaza update: Finding that neither Jordan, Egypt, Syria or other Arab countries will not accept over two million Palestinians on a permanent basis, America has opened its arms and they will be relocated to West Palm Beach county in FLA as the terrain and weather are the closest to where they come from. Word is that one thousand will be settled on the property known as Mar-A-Lago until space on Don, Jr’s property and Jared and Ivanka’s property can be cordoned off.
     
  12. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    Josie, Still waiting for details on the alleged death threat, libel is a nasty thing.
     
  13. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    So, if these DOGE payments happen I am sure all the highly ethical Trump and Musk haters will send them back, right?
     
  14. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    I am not sure what payments you are talking about, presumably about the tax cuts. Last tax cut, I believe 85% of the cuts went to the top 5% who paid nothing. Now he wants to make those permanent plus another large tax cut that will predominantly benefit the top 5%. Who will pay for basically running the government that’s left plus paying off the debt. Go look in the mirror. Remember you are the chump who voted for this, enjoy it.
    I also see the Russkies age Lil’ Marco like a Cuban sandwich at the recent meeting with the Saudis moderating. Should have sent Kash Patel, he could have given Putin a hummer while mumbling is giving you Ukraine not enough, we throw in Moldavia as a sweetener.
     
  15. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    So you have no clue what DOGE is, what they have been doing, ans what they are planning for all the wasteful spending they found. You really are stuck in the past.
     
  16. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    Reality is truly a bugger when one relies on X as their news feed. Oh well.

    Two quick stories of some note, at least for those who haven't drank the Kool-Aid:
    1). We know there's been several outrageous claims of massive fraud in Social Security and the amazing savings, but alas, yesterday those unsubstantiated payments to 150 year olds was quickly put to rest by none other than trump's own temporary head of SS. He said this: "The reported data are people in our records with a Social Security number who do not have a date of death associated with their record. These individuals are not necessarily receiving benefits," Dudek said. Wonder how long this dude will last after those remarks?
    2). We also know the Senate worked late into the night to pass their version of the spending bill. We also know it will be in conflict with the House's version as they have on their plan, trump's endorsed agenda this gem: Passage of the Senate plan now puts pressure on the GOP-controlled House, which plans to take up its own competing budget resolution next week. In addition to money for the border, defense and energy, that version also includes a $4.5 trillion tax cut and a $4 trillion debt limit hike.

    The obvious question for anyone reading is simply this: With the massive, huge, bigly cuts/savings by Leon and company, why in the world do we need a a 4 trillion dollar hike in the debt limit, and more importantly, why are they proposing a 4.5 trillion dollar tax cut for those billionaires and millionaires when the average working man and woman (and retiree) are being crushed by the ever increasing cost of eggs, gasoline, other grocery items and spiking insurances?

    So much for fixing stuff on day 1 eh?
     
  17. Josie P

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  18. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    Cute. Source adam schiff.com, common dreams.com and moms .com


    All left leaning sources. So Nanny P says you can't see what's in the bill till we pass it, and Bill P says he knows what's in the bill before anyone else.
     
  19. Josie P

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  20. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    And the answer to the question regarding the 4.5 trillion dollar tax break to the millionaires and billionaires, AND, the necessity to shovel a 4 trillion dollar debt limit ceiling is...wait for it... we found a $100 bill on the floor.

    Math is so challenging for some.
     
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