Kamala Wants to be President

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  1. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

  2. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    Yup, a right wing anti immigrant group accepting $1.2B from racist Pioneer Fund who has key officials joining white supremacy groups. Reading about them they appear to subscribe to the Great Replacement theory that whites are losing their power which is what it’s really all about, THOSE PEOPLE becoming a majority and taking over government. Bet the Indians felt the same way with all those white people coming here.
    Is this all you have? Racist groups, washed up coked out actors, people posting from their basements, news organizations broadcasting from a walk in closet, militias taking over towns with their twisted ideology.Will you ever have anything that borders on sane.
     
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  3. carptrash

    carptrash Well-Known Member

    Pun intended or not?
     
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  4. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    As my good Trump supporting friend in N’Awlinz said, the truth hurts and it’s always funny. He is also the person who gave me the term “Coon Ass” as it is commonly used there. He has lived in the Crescent City his entire life. So I am using a vernacular term, you do understand that?
     
  5. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    Holy GOP!!! Madison Square Garden is overflowing. 19,500 seats full! People are outside watching the big screens!
     
  6. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    Nazi Sympatherizer Rally, 1939 in MSG. Racist, xenophobic misogynist anti Semitic Rally 10/27/24. History does repeat it self.
     
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  7. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    How many times people showed for Harris’ rally in Georgia and Houston? Suck on it Maxipad Donnie.
     
  8. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    That and the NAZI rally in 1939 should really hug each other because they are so close. Seig Heil!
     
  9. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

  10. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    Fake news and Jesse Waters, really? Let’s see what the investigation says. Alleged fake ballots and registrations were in fact used for test runs on the counting machines. You do want an accurate count don’t you? Same goes for registrations. All this before the real voting began. Another pice of shit story from Fake News and their gerbils.
     
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  11. Josie P

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  13. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    Voter suppression, where is simple notification to the indiduals? Republicans are going to do their best to have the entire list stricken by Tuesday. Some stricken probably have been verified but sloppy work by the counties, especially if a foreign sounding name.
     
  14. Janet Curry

    Janet Curry Well-Known Member

    This post is about the fallacy of "voter suppression", at least in the state of Iowa. I have been researching this for the last several days.

    Sequence of events:
    1. Iowa Secretary of State Pate has said public pressure and a new source of citizenship information led him to flag more than 2,100 of the state’s 2.3 million registered voters as potential noncitizens just two weeks before Election Day.

    He referred 154 people to law enforcement last week for allegedly voting or registering to vote and later identifying themselves as noncitizens on Department of Transportation paperwork. Pate has also directed county auditors to require an additional 2,022 voters to cast a provisional ballot if they don’t prove their citizenship before voting. Those voters would have to prove their citizenship to their county auditor by Nov. 12 to have their vote counted.

    At a news conference about election security Wednesday, Pate said he recently found out about an Iowa Department of Transportation list his office could use to check the citizenship of registered voters. Previously, the secretary of state has used jury lists for that purpose.

    He said the DOT list is not 100% up-to-date, but it was his only option. Pate said while most of the people flagged as potential noncitizens likely became citizens before registering to vote, he believes there are some noncitizens on the list.

    “We’re balancing this process,” he said. “We want everyone to be able to vote. That is why none of them have been taken off the voter rolls, but we do…owe an obligation to make sure that they are citizens now.”

    It is a felony for people who are not U.S. citizens to vote or register to vote.

    2. Attorney General Bird Statement on Biden-Harris DOJ Attempt to Pressure Iowa into Letting Noncitizens Illegally Vote [October 20, 2024]
    DES MOINES—Iowa Attorney General Brenna Bird today announced that the Biden-Harris Department of Justice called the State in an attempt to pressure Iowa into letting noncitizens illegally vote.

    Attorney General Bird released the following response:

    State and federal law are clear: only American citizens can vote in American elections. Now, just days before the 2024 election, the DOJ is attempting to undermine long-standing election integrity laws and pressure Iowa into letting noncitizens vote. But I have news for Biden and Harris: not on my watch. Every legal vote must count and not be canceled by an illegal vote. In Iowa, we will defend our election integrity laws and protect the vote.”

    3. Iowa naturalized U.S. citizens sue to block challenges of potential noncitizen voters
    Naturalized U.S. citizens sued Iowa’s top election official in federal court Wednesday night to try to stop his plan to challenge voters’ citizenship at the polls if they appear on a flawed, confidential list of more than 2,100 people flagged as possible noncitizens. [All 2,100 persons on the list, not just the four listed in the lawsuit.]

    The ACLU filed the lawsuit on behalf of [four] people who are newer U.S. citizens who are eligible to vote, as well as the League of United Latin American Citizens of Iowa.

    4. Here’s the problem…the federal government is not giving us [Iowa] access to the SAVE file.”

    Reynolds and Pate said that federal service — Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements— would help the state to get up-to-date information on voters’ citizenship status. They said they do not know why the federal government will not give the secretary of state’s office access to SAVE after repeated requests.

    A U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services spokesperson did not say on Wednesday why the agency has not approved the Iowa secretary of state’s office to use SAVE.

    “SAVE is the most secure and efficient way to verify an individual’s citizenship or immigration status, including for verification regarding voter registration and/or voter list maintenance,” they said.


    Wikipedia: [SAVE is part of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security]
    Permissible uses and users

    SAVE can be used by agencies of governments at any level in the United States, including:[2]

    • The federal government
    • State governments
    • Local governments (such as city and county governments)
    • Tribal governments
    A given agency is eligible to use SAVE only if determining the immigration and nationality status of individual is necessary for its work of one of these types:[2]

    1. Determination of eligibility for a federal, state, or local public benefit
    2. Issuing a license or grant
    3. Issuing a government credential
    4. Conducting a background investigation
    5. Any other lawful purpose

    So, while the Biden Administration and Harris/Walz campaigns are screaming, "Voter suppression!", their own administration is withholding the information from states to verify if a voter is a legal resident. Secretaries of States are required to follow federal and state laws. It is a federal offense for a noncitizen to vote!

    I wonder how many other states have been affected by the U.S. Citizen and Immigration Services not helping them identify whether people have the right to vote or not. This is evidence of more corruption in the Biden/Walz administration. Not surprised!
     
    Last edited: Nov 3, 2024
  15. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    Janet, the SAVE can be used by State governments but probably have to go through some sort qualification process, thinking protection of personal data. The term “any other lawful purpose is so vague you could drive a truck through it.

    It seems the voter registrations and ballots from non citizens being questioned in PA appeared to be tied to the Vice Mayor of Mesa, AZ from the investigations thus far. I spent the first 57 years of my life in both a suburb of Chicago and in Chicago and I know a lot about voting funny business, corruption and election tricks, but the Republicans out here are totally shameless, such as fake electors, endless baseless lawsuits wasting taxpayer money. The person running to be my Congressional representative has a lawsuit over the election he lost two years ago. Abe Hamadeh has been silent on which job he would choose if lawsuit successful. What kind of clown is this and why did the Republicans select him in the first place other than this is a safe district with Debbie Lesko moving on to another public teat to suck on after spending a short time to be with family,
     
  16. Janet Curry

    Janet Curry Well-Known Member

    Dave,
    I am sure that SAVE has some security platform, but the article says the US Citizenship and Immigration office won't give them access even though they have requested it multiple times. I find that inexcusable! Then they accuse the states of "voter suppression" while they are trying to abide by federal laws. And then the ACLU ties up the court system. Plain and simple corruption!

    I haven't kept abreast of the AZ politics. I read the AZ Republic online a few times a week. The only thing I know is that the AZ Republic/USA Today hates Kari Lake.

    There has been plenty to keep track of here in my home state. You may be glad to know that I broke from my conservative Republican party on three state initiatives. One was about allowing marijuana for medical purposes, one for family leave in the workplace, and one about using tax money for scholarships for private schools. Otherwise I voted Red all the way! I have really done my homework this time.
     
  17. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    Why not legalize marijuana, paid family leave not just family leave as it solves nothing especially for single parent households or two parent households where both parents income was necessary. Anything less is offering a solution that is just window dressing. Public money for scholarships for private schools is ridiculous. The question you have to ask who benefits most from this money helicopter and I am not talking about the students. The firth thing that comes to mind is religious schools. Long term stats have shown that people are leaving the church, especially millennials and Gen Z and since revenue is the name of the game, religious schools are licking their chops over this. Check out the vouchers in AZ program that is open ended. Last fiscal year 9ver $800M on these vouchers that went to predominately high cost private schools whose student body was not from failing schools but from current student, essentially welfare for the well off. Bad news is that the Republican legislature does not want to put a cap on this and projections for the current year is close $1B for which we will run a deficit. BTW, the money that goes to this pork is deducted from the public schools.

    Kari Lake is basically an airhead and a one trick pony, just a talking head from local Fox News for many years really doesn’t know anything of substance on policy.

    I apologize if I offend you but I am passionate about my views and I believe they are supported by facts.

    Being from Chicago I have voted several times already, just kidding, did send in my ballot a couple of weeks ago.
     
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  18. Janet Curry

    Janet Curry Well-Known Member

    Dave, I think you misunderstood me. I voted FOR legalizing marijuana for medical purposes, FOR paid family leave, and AGAINST spending public money for scholarships private schools. I share the same views as you on those issues. I said that "I broke" with the Republican party on those constitutional amendments. I voted AGAINST abortion through the third trimester, especially since it allowed minors to have abortions without parental consent and non medical people could perform abortions. I voted FOR abortion through 12 weeks. Nebraska was one of two states that had two opposing abortion issues on the ballot. It is unclear what will happen if both pass.

    My nephew was able to attend a charter school under the AZ voucher program. It was like an elite prep school. Nice for him, but the rest of AZ public schools are ranked at the bottom of the nation. I don't agree with that. Private schools don't have to accept students with disabilities which is unfair to those students. The end result is the public schools have the students with behavior and attendance problems, expensive special education services, and students who don't know the English language. AZ is a good example of why charter schools are a bad idea. The private school scholarship issue in NE was one of the signature bills of my good friend, Governor Pillen, and supported by my niece, a state legislator from Lincoln.I don't think it will pass for many reasons. Rural Nebraska doesn't have many private schools. Students who live in poverty don't have availability for transportation to the private schools.

    Regarding marijuana, I would have voted for its legalization if it was for both medical and recreational purposes. Anyone who wants, uses it anyway. Why criminalize it? The few times I used it, I didn't like the effect it had on me. Felt zoned out with brain fog.

    Now about paid family leave, I was fortunate to have it during my career and there were times when I definitely needed it such as when my parents were in the hospital and taking my son to his doctor appointments at the Mayo Clinic four times a year. When I retired, I left behind 50+ sick days. We were not compensated for them, but I couldn't have done my job effectively if I had used them. However, if I had a debilitating disease, they were definitely a safety cushion there for me to use. Unfortunately I had many coworkers who had the theory, "If you don't use them, you lose them."

    See, Dave, I can think for myself! I am not offended. You have the right to your opinions as do all of us.

    When my husband attended Northwester University in Evanston, he helped move polling machines before elections the day before voting. He said the machines already had votes on them before the polls open. That was in the mid 1960's so I don't know if early voting was possible then or not. He always said, "Vote early and vote often!" Unlike you, he hated college and wouldn't step foot on the Northwestern campus the rest of his life.

    I, too, voted a couple of weeks ago. I didn't trust the mail system so I went to the courthouse to vote in person. Of course, here the courthouse is only a couple of miles away.

    See you soon. We are still in Nebraska because Bill has a grandson playing football in the state playoffs. He's a senior so it's a big deal for them. I am content being in either NE or AZ.
     
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  19. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    I would like to clarify something on the old voting machines from back in the day. I was an election judge in Chicago for several elections of all sorts. It is true that the old machines showed cumulative votes for each race prior to the opening of the polls. As a juadge (we had to show up about an hour and half prior to opening) we had to record the cumulative numbers for each individual race in a log book and signed of by each judge from the respective parties prior to opening the polling place. At the conclusion of voting the process was then repeated with the new numerical totals, the difference noted and again signed off by all the judges. It was about the late 80s or early 90s when the electronic voting was introduced making voting and the judges workload easier. At no time, during my experience was there fraud or ballot box stuffing. The precinct I and my fellow judges ran a tight ship with a clean election. BTW, myself and Republican judge would deliver the locked ballot box with the paper ballots to a secure counting location where we would have to sign off on the delivery. All the signatures mentioned here were under the penalty of perjury. Also my employer was pleased to give me a paid day off to do this work as they believed heavily in this type of public service.

    Sorry I misinterpreted your prior post and good luck to your grandson in his game. You want to spark up a blunt with me s9metime and listen to Dark Side of the Moon?
     
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  20. Janet Curry

    Janet Curry Well-Known Member

    I had to look up what a blunt was. Thanks, but no thanks. Of course we all know that politics in Chicago have always been pristine!
     

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