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  1. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    Leo Terrell a civil rights attorney who apparently has never litigated a case of note since bein admitted to the CA bar in 1990. His wealth seems to come from sucking of the Fox News teat with Hannity and others. He did have a couple of gigs in LA doing TV and radio which ended in June, 2023. Did write a book in 1998 concerning rights in the workplace but nothing since. He is based in LA.

    Question, if the woman’s house in NC was locked, did Kamala or any of her staff break down the down to enter? That would be trespassing, property damage and unlawful entry. Why wasn’t she arrested, is there a police report? Sounds fishy to me.
     
  2. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    That should be break down the door. Was answering an important phone call while typing.
     
  3. Josie P

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  4. Josie P

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  5. Josie P

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  6. FYI

    FYI Well-Known Member

    There you go again Bill, dragging out your once professed studies of community organizer activist Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals!" Taking over Healthcare is number one on Alinsky's 8 steps to transform a nation through Socialism into Communism!

    Remember when you said this?
    “Lot's to digest here gang. You make me smile IC because i might be one of a handful of SC residents who used Rules For Radicals and The Art of War on a regular basis in my work life. When i retired, i vowed to step away from fighting the good fight and try and enjoy life.” BPearson, May 13, 2020

    Healthcare is not and should never be turned into a Right!

    You don't have a right to an education. You don't have a right to an abortion. You don't have a right to free food, housing, transportation, or health care.

    Why? Because all these so-called "rights" force someone else to provide those things to you.

    You'll notice one common theme among every Right listed in the Bill of Rights: They don't cost anything. This is the litmus test whenever anyone claims they have a new and creative "right." If it costs someone something such as time, money or labor, it's not a Right.
     
  7. FYI

    FYI Well-Known Member

    P.S. Here's Alinsky's 8 Steps!

    1. Healthcare – control healthcare and you control the people.

    2. Poverty – Increase the poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you provide everything for them to live.

    3. Debt – Increase the debt level to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes and this will produce more poverty.

    4. Gun control – Remove the ability to defend themselves from government. That way you are able to create a police state.

    5. Welfare – Take control of every aspect (food, housing, income) of their lives because that will make them fully dependent on the government.

    6. Education – Take control of what people read and listen to and take control or what children learn in school.

    7. Religion – Remove belief in God from the government and schools because the people need to believe in only the government knowing what is best for the people.

    8. Class warfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. Eliminate the middle class.

    So which Party, Democrat or Republican best represents the above ideology?
     
  8. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

  9. FYI

    FYI Well-Known Member

    I bet you loved Leo when he was a California Democrat?

    Leo is just one more intellectually honest person who has seen and accepted the fact that the Democrat Party has actually left him.

    The only Republicans who have flipped to supporting the Democrats are those who are already well known RINO's like Mitt Romney, Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger and many, many more!
     
  10. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    C'mon Tom! No one is smarter than Dave. All these folks who have careers on news shows can't hold a candle to Dave's level of intelligence. That's why his face is plastered all over TV, news stations are clamoring for his opinion, and yet he is so humble he chooses to live here in SC instead of the Palatial Estate he could afford.
     
  11. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    Glad you asked tom, Democrats have the best ideology, always have, always will. Thanks for asking by the way.

    I did read both Rules for Radicals as well as the Art of War. I represented working men and women of average means. They worked hard and expected a fair days pay for their labor. The only party that cared about them was those on the left. The right worked tirelessly on behalf of the employers.

    Just like today, only far worse; those that have it all, want more. Enough is never enough for the musk's of the world. They know trump will help them increase their portfolios and give them bigger tax cuts. He's stood on the stage and promised them exactly that.

    All the while the suckers feed his giant ego while he pretends he cares about you. I read your comments the other day and laughed out loud about how a man who has never even walked into a grocery store, was going to fix your woes. He doesn't care, never has never will. Your are simply rubes who keep feeding his ego and his money grabbing schemes.

    And as long as we are chatting here, and as long as you are this genius at terms and documents and how it all works, help me out. I've seen and heard the rantings and ravings of the lunatic for too long and at some point, one of his smarter (maybe you) followers can sort this out for him: Is Harris a Communist, a Socialist or a Fascist? You do know all three are radically different right? Perhaps you should try and get the trumpster on message...though no one in his campaign can come close to getting him to understand how DUMB he sounds.

    Anyway, in my travels i've met both socialists and communists. They were never my cup of tea because as a Democrat, our beliefs and what we fought for were wildly different. As a Humphrey democrat i embraced his mindset: "The moral test of government is how it treats those who are in the dawn of life, the children; those who are in the twilight of life, the aged; and those who are in the shadows of life, the sick, the needy, and the handicapped."

    But alas, apparently you buy into the trump philosophy we should judge how well the country is doing based on the top 1%. Or. just as bad, how many guns we can accumulate. Sorry buddy, you can lick your lips over bylaw wording, but when it comes to who cares about whom, standing next to trump is akin to telling me how good a bottle of vodka is to an alcoholic.
     
  12. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    Here is a video of folks living in the Harris world. No thank you. We can't take another 4 years. These Americans are hurting Bill, but you are ok so who cares.

    https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/1836392528171667691

    Did you see this?
    The Teamsters, which is one of the largest unions in the country, said a poll of members conducted after last week’s debate between Harris and Trump found 58 percent backed Trump compared to 31 percent who supported the vice president. The poll was conducted by Lake Research Partners. Just announced there will be no endorsement of a candidate this year.
     
  13. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    Never heard of him before today.
    Teamsters Union refuses to endorse any candidate.
    The “Dream Team couldn’t save S&H green stamps” let alone America.
     
  14. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    What, did you just fall out of a coconut tree?

    Yes I said that already in the post above yours, however you forgot the polling part. https://x.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1836476703595479428

    Yes, that's why they are all so wealthy.
     
  15. carptrash

    carptrash Well-Known Member

    Fred Nietzsche on this thread: "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process (s)he does not become a monster."
     
  16. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

  17. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    Yeah, ok.

    Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900) was a German philosopher. He dabbled in many subjects, including art, drama, and criticism, but he is most remembered as a radical and nihilistic philosopher.Jul 23, 2024

    nihilism: the rejection of all religious and moral principles, in the belief that life is meaningless.

    In January of 1889, the great German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche went mad. One year later, Nietzsche's friend Peter Gast visited him in a mental asylum in Jena.May 29, 2021

    The philosophical ideas of the French author, the Marquis de Sade, are often noted as early examples of nihilistic principles.
     
  18. carptrash

    carptrash Well-Known Member

    What a load. here is what was posted about Alinsky’s rulesThe rules according to TOSC
    P.S. He"re's Alinsky's 8 Steps!
    1. Healthcare – control healthcare and you control the people.
    2. Poverty – Increase the poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you provide everything for them to live.
    3. Debt – Increase the debt level to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes and this will produce more poverty.
    4. Gun control – Remove the ability to defend themselves from government. That way you are able to create a police state.
    5. Welfare – Take control of every aspect (food, housing, income) of their lives because that will make them fully dependent on the government.
    6. Education – Take control of what people read and listen to and take control or what children learn in school.
    7. Religion – Remove belief in God from the government and schools because the people need to believe in only the government knowing what is best for the people.
    8. Class warfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. Eliminate the middle class."

    Now here are The Rules

    1 "Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have."
    2 "Never go outside the experience of your people."
    3 "Whenever possible go outside of the experience of the enemy."
    4 "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."
    5 "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. There is no defense. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage."
    6 "A good tactic is one your people enjoy."
    7 "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag."
    8 "Keep the pressure on."
    9 "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself."
    10 "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition."
    11 "If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside; this is based on the principle that every positive has its negative."
    12 "The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative."
    13 "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”


    Nothing about Healthcare, certainly nothing about increasing poverty, nothing about debt, nothing about guns, nothing about education, nothing about god or religion and zip about class warfare, So how is this Alinsky? It is really hard not to delve into Rule 5 here.
     
  19. FYI

    FYI Well-Known Member

    Perhaps they use to, but now they fall more into Alinsky's 8 steps.
     
  20. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    The ability for anyone to be able to translate, articulate and then decimate information in a credible manner is always impressive to me. Sadly, it has become a lost art. Messaging has been reduced to sound bites that are short and meant to make ones point without much effort. It's one of the reasons podcasts don't interest me.

    When i saw all the links posted i never click on, i did question the bigger picture issue of labor endorsements. So, i went looking and saw that 9 of the 10 largest unions in the country have endorsed Harris/Walz. That's not surprising; labor typically backs democrats because democrats typically align with workers, not employers.

    Here's where ones ability to sort through the white noise becomes important. The Teamster's did not endorse either candidate, and while some may be giddy about that...the missing piece to the puzzle is staring us all right in the face: Teamster president Sean O'Brien had a featured role in the Republican Convention as a speaker.

    One can safely assume the fact he was invited and appeared there was that an endorsement would follow. Oops, not the case. The fact of the matter is the bigger insult falls on the fact he got the slot and then couldn't deliver the endorsement. Clearly he wanted to.

    Happy to break down the news of the day for those unable to understand what things like this mean.
     
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