“Titanic America is taking on water and sinking fast.”

Discussion in 'Non Sun City Related Discussions' started by Josie P, Jul 31, 2024.

  1. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

  2. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    Wow and all of this from a poster who just claimed he/she blocked me. Curious.

    But alas, it is what it is, the far right never rests when it comes to pretending reality isn't what we all see and read with our own eyes.

    Continuing on with weird, how strange is it while the entire country is celebrating the return of US hostages, the former president is congratulating Putin? Come on, really? Russia isn't our friend, Russia will never be our friend. Putin's goal is to destroy us. And yet, trump thinks he's his butt-buddy.

    Yikes.
     
  3. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    Sorry Bill. I had signed out. When you do that you see crap you don't want to. Glad I did tho! And cut the crap. You know exactly who I am. You doxed me, remember? It set a precedent. I feel empowered now to do the same, first names only tho. Thant's what you said.

    Now this is funny!!! (Parody) https://x.com/i/status/1816826660089733492
     
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  4. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member


    Dude! It was a slam against Biden. Trump said Putin got his best killers back. Typical liberal. Tell only the part of the story you want to believe, or maybe you need to get your B1 levels checked.
     
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  5. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    So we are clear here for all TOSC readers, when you block anyone on this site, they become an "ignored member." Signing in and signing out makes absolutely no difference. We've lived through the orange guy fabricating, bloviating and bull shitting his way through life and now it's the expectation that just spewing crap is perfectly fine.

    It's not for normal people. I have a lot of friends who are voting for trump. So be it, but most of them are honest enough to admit his bat shit craziness is over the top. Then there's the rare cases who just swallow his turd sandwiches with barely even trying to digest the nonsense and self-serving morsels he feeds us all every day.

    From my friends at The Bulwark and AB Stoddard who broke down the Atlanta trump rally, you know the one where he pissed on long time republicans who refused to lie and cheat for him in 2020. This paragraph captures it all:

    The most bizarre moment at the Atlanta rally came when Trump congratulated Vladimir Putin “for having made another great deal”—his awkward and grossly un-American attempt to criticize the extraordinary images of political prisoners returning safely home from Russia and being greeted on the tarmac by Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

    This one simply goes well beyond weird. It's plain nuts.
     
  6. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    Bill I already addressed this statement. If you would just take a moment and read Trump said Putin got back his best killers. It was a jab at Biden. Putin got the better deal, his evil killers are back. If you think that helps the US in any way you are getting as senile as old Joe. You are repeating yourself. Like I said get your B1 levels checked. You could be at risk.

    Signing in and out does make a difference. When you are signed in you don't see the "ignored" posts. It may say you ignored this person, do you want to see anyway? When signed out and just cruising thru the blog you see all, ignored or not. For someone as intelligent as you who has been using this blog for years you sure don't know much. Try it.

    As far as JD he served our country honorably. Did you? Other than berate those who oppose you and self admittedly drank yourself into oblivion what have you accomplished for this country. I read your post where you ripped Tom McClain a new one then pretended to be his friend. People evolve, JD AND Heels Up Harris both berated their future running mates. We all say and do things we regret. Climb down off that pedestal. If you are so damn smart why hasn't your name been on any ballot.
     
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  7. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    War withdrawal, agreement with the enemy not to invade capital until U. S. Withdrawal complete. Federal government leaders abscond with the treasury and leave the country, army quits when government collapses. Damn I thought we were talking about Viet Nam. Remember the helicopters being pushed of the flat tops, lines of people trying to get out. Boat people. Republican president responsible for that, Gerald Ford.

    Afghanistan withdrawal, deal made by president Trump that he trusted the Taliban, included the release of 5000 Taliban fighters prior to the withdrawal which put them back on the battlefield, week before the withdrawal the top leaders raid the treasury of gold and silver and hightail to friendly countries on the Arabian peninsula, the army who the Americans were counting to keep order during the withdrawal see the government flee and they consequently disappear into the populace. Now, the hypocrisy of the Republicans swings into full tilt and demand answers why it was so screwed up.

    As Yogi Berra once said there goes that deja vu again.

    FYI, you are furious over the Afghan withdrawal but silent on the Viet Nam withdrawal, being a Viet Nam vet and all. Why is that? Guess that’s why you have us history jocks around to jog your memory.
     
  8. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    Tim Walz. seriously. Welp on the upside every men's room will now be stocked with tampons for the boys. Maybe he will change the American flag to resemble the Somalian flag like he did in his home state. He also made Minnesota a 'sanctuary' state for gender transitions for minors.
     
  9. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    You are such a clueless bozo it hard comprehending your hate over something you know nothing about. Guess that is the right wing, hate them all and let the liberals sort them out. You are the personification of how I described Republicans in a prior post. Does 1930’s Germany, Massachusetts 1350, Europe religion 1200’s, cruelty of the Inquisition in the 1300s &1400’s strike a familiar note?
     
  10. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    Social Media can be so entertaining. I love the fact that when someone posts something another does not agree with the first poster is just wrong! Believe as I believe, do as I do, say what I say. Dictatorship?
     
  11. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    One of the best tag lines titles for a radio program was Paul Harvey's "The Rest Of The Story." It had an amazing 33 year run; Paul died in 2009. While he clearly leaned to the right, he was loved by listeners from both parties. Of course, that was back when those on the right were more normal and politics was less contentious.

    Anyway, let me steal his line and present "The Rest Of The Story" (with a tip of the hat to Paul).

    I watched some of the republican convention, not much but enough clips to come away scratching my head. Speaker after speaker asked me (and all of those watching); "weren't you better off 4 years ago than you are now? " It struck me oddly because i remember full well July 2020. We were all in lock-down mode and American's were dropping dead in record numbers. The president (trump) was appearing on national television saying some of the dumbest stuff possible.

    It was must watch TV; mostly because there wasn't much else to do and because the nonsense flowing was better than any stand-up comedy routine available anywhere else. The man simply had no clue about what he was talking about and in spite of his experts trying to help him, he never slowed in proving to the country how little he knew or understood. It would have been funny except his craziness resulted in way more American's being lost to Covid19 than should have been.

    In all honesty, the pandemic was most likely the reason the president lost the election. He handled it poorly and that pissed off a lot of voters. Presidents are always measured by their success in times of trial; trump simply failed us all.

    Anyway, i took those right wing speakers at the convention at face value and did as they asked. I have gone back to July of 2020 and looked at the stock market and at the unemployment figures and then compared them to the figures from yesterday (including the :great stock market collapse" of 8/5); simply stunning what i found.

    But alas, this post is too long already so i will come back later with the data comparing trump/Biden. After all, i am sure we all agree, data matters.
     
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  12. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    But alas, all your posts are too long. Back to the ignore button. Heels Up Harris made a BIG mistake with her VP pick. The fun thing for me is I can laugh and have fun with all this. Nothing really matters.
     
  13. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    What a freaking blast, seriously, who doesn't love a little digging for data? Before we begin The Rest Of The Story, here's an interesting tidbit i came across in my research; i was shocked as i suspect you will be as well. So many love to try and sell/spin trump's successes as the president of the United States. Realities a biatch eh?

    "But the U.S. economy was slowing down even before the pandemic. The U.S. added less than 2 million jobs in 2019 — the lowest annual growth since 2010.

    And then the novel coronavirus struck. In two months, March and April 2020, the U.S. economy lost a staggering 21.9 million jobs.

    Most of those jobs (57%) would return before Trump left office. But he ended his presidency with an economy that had 2.7 million fewer jobs than when he started — becoming the first president in modern times to experience a net loss of jobs over his time in office, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, which has monthly employment figures dating to 1939."

    Dang, i never saw that coming. After listening to speaker after speaker telling us how good life was under trump, i expected explosive job growth. Duh, nope. "A net loss in jobs...indeed."
     
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  14. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    Yep, facts are like that, they take time to provide context, state what happened and then the result. This is what it’s like to be an informed adult rather than watching short attention span news where the info is accurate but not necessarily true or complete bs.

    JD Vance is the perfect running mate for the Orange Clown, misogynist, racist, xenophobic, wrapped up in an aw shucks backwoods pseudo Davy Crockett background. Unfortunately he spent most time growing up in Cincinnati with that godawful chili. Watching him makes me proud that I attended mid level university and not an Ivy League place like Yale. I am a better person for it. I would not have been admitted to Yale anyway as I was a lazy C student. Nobody likes C students like Bill Gates for university or employment. I think it actually worked out for both of us, although he did do a little better than me.
     
  15. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    Nice post Bill, well researched and coherently presented. Since the Republicans like invoking Ronald Reagan, they never say how he would beat the inflation when he was running. It was still high in the late 80’s. They also avoid that October, 1987 stock market crash that produced a recession that last into the mid 90’s. I chalk that up to that stark raving lunatic Stephen Moore as his economist who never got anything correct and for some reason he is still hanging around in right wing think tanks. I also note that the three major indexes are way up today recovering half of yesterday’s loss which the news from Japan was a big factor.
     
  16. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    All of the data is out there Dave and it is quite fascinating. The argument from the right is it isn't fair because the pandemic hit and ruined trump's numbers. But did it? We saw above the data for 2019 showed a slowing job market. The question was simply this: Had Obama's explosive growth finally come to a halt?

    But alas, why speculate when we have at our fingertips, real data without the pandemic included. Here's several paragraphs from an article where they compared the first 30 months of trump and Biden's terms, it was regarding false statements trump made (i know hard to believe) at a rally:

    "When Trump took office in January 2017, the U.S. had 145.6 million nonfarm jobs, the Bureau of Labor Statistics’ standard measurement for job counting. After Trump’s first 30 months — the same number of months that Biden has been in office — the number of jobs had risen to 150.8 million.

    That’s an increase of about 5.2 million jobs, or a bit higher than the 4.9 million Trump described in South Carolina.

    Using this methodology, Trump was much further off base with Biden’s numbers.

    When Biden took office in January 2021, the U.S had almost 143 million nonfarm jobs. By Biden’s 30th month in office — June 2023 — the number of nonfarm jobs had risen to 156.2 million.

    That’s an increase of 13.2 million jobs, or more than six times as big as the 2.1 million jobs Trump referenced in his speech."

    The data doesn't lie, liars do. You tell me, which is better for the USA?
    30 months under trump: 5.2 million jobs.
    30 months under Biden: 13.2 million jobs.

    Best of all, we haven't even begun to look at the markets or at the unemployment figures on a side by side.
     
  17. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    I love working with professionals. When I was preparing for student teaching (my last college class), my supervising teacher was amazed how much I knew about history. I told him I read history, I know things.

    The last question I was asked in my job interview with the company where I would spend my career was did I know who Wallace Warfield Simpson was? I smiled and said I abdicate the throne for the woman I love. The VP of the office looked at me said you are hired. Turns out her uncle, Edwin Warfield was one of the founders of the company. Glad it wasn’t on the cause and effect of the French Revolution.
     
  18. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    Kamala ran away from a popular Jewish candidate to a white German socialist.

    Outta here. Hope all the NPD's have fun agreeing with each other.

    Anyone who sees this please pray for my friend.

    Josie Out.
     
  19. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    Congratulations to Kamala for picking Tim Walz as her running mate. Solid Midwestern guy who is down to earth and results oriented politician actually gets things done. Way better than the Ivy league cat-hater whose resume is paper thin; other than Peter Theil jas bought and paid for him. He appears to be trying to best Justice Thomas race for billionaire support.

    Anyway, i spend a lot of time on The Bulwark: Today i shared my thoughts on the Walz pick, enjoy"

    "One of the more strange constructs of selecting vance was he spoke about family lunch pail issues. You know, beyond the stupidity of kids having votes cast by their parents, he's arguing people should be banging out kids (especially maga ones) in an effort to stop the flood of migrants.

    I only mention that because Walz has actually integrated those lunch pail issues into the governance process in Minnesota. Having kids when you can't afford them is crazy; helping families get by with assistance (free school lunches, tax incentives on child care etc) is putting in play actions that matter. JD is big on platitudes and invisible on actions.

    Picture this debate on a stage; one guy spewing words with the other guy showing results. Lordy, there is a God after all."
     
  20. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    I admit didn’t know much about Walz other than he was a retired school teacher and governor of MN. Then I read a few reputable articles regarding points you just made, but also worked well with conservatives on matters and has a good relationship with Somalians and other Muslim communities which helps Kamala a lot. This should help with the large Muslim communities in Michigan where support for Kamala is a bit iffy because of this Gaza thing.

    Coming from a lunch pail family with Dad working for the railroad, I had these types of jobs until I graduated from the university and my bro is a very talented certified auto mechanic but decided working in some shops freezing in the winter and hotter than hell in the summer he went back to a job he really enjoys is working in an Ace hardware store. Point being I can identify with this candidate. Looking forward to seeing and hearing more from him.
     

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