Capital Allocation Process(?)

Discussion in 'Sun City General Discussions' started by John Fast, Apr 10, 2024.

  1. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    Per RCSC Website
    Committee Meetings
    ** Committee Meetings are no longer being video taped.

    No reason given. No stop date. I understand our technology is not up to date, but SCW has an awesome feature where you can remote in and participate.
     
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  2. eyesopen

    eyesopen Well-Known Member

    The video taping of committee meetings was implemented during Covid shutdown and ceased when no longer in effect.

    Resuming can be be and should be done, however…
    To record and edit all committee meetings it will require additional staff, or capable trained volunteers, and equipment on the days there are multiple meetings being held. Usually the beginning of the month.

    (Clarification for some…Editing, post production. Title graphics, canned recorded use warnings, dropping actual meeting in, etc. Posting to YouTube in real time.)
     
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  3. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    John. You and i have more in common than not. So, no cardiac arrest here. Disagreement most often is the catalyst for change. Sadly we fell into a mindset for far too many years (2006) where there was virtually none. One big happy family. Unfortunately changing the culture of an organization is slow and painful. When i was on the board i tried and failed miserably.

    Here's the other thing i know about you, whether we agree or not, your heart and your intentions are for the right reason, bettering Sun City. It's when people tell us they hate the community and want out, i have no time for them.
     
  4. Tom Trepanier

    Tom Trepanier Well-Known Member

    Was able to remote in for the SAC meetings. RCSC has the technology.
     
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  5. Tom Trepanier

    Tom Trepanier Well-Known Member

    SAC meetings were videotaped and live meeting was accessible over the internet. To me, the LRP and B&F meetings, especially now, are important enough to warrant videotaping.
     
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  6. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member


    Linda, according to the current policy it is not listed as a restricted fund but rather says can be. The policy also states that it cannot be used for maintenance. Obviously the individual who drafted this was clueless to what the fund was for or doesn’t know crap about drafting policies. I am presenting at the next B&F meeting a policy I drafted for recommendation to the Board to replace the current disaster. I am going to try to have everybody have a look see before the meeting for any suggestions or additions.
     
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  7. Linda McIntyre

    Linda McIntyre Well-Known Member

    Understood. We know the intent, however, and Finance is working toward clarification. All part of this cleanup process that is taking too long for some members to get this as close to "right" as possible - given the mess we're in. That's why I said "come to the meetings."

    It's unfortunate every meeting space isn't equipped with the technology and that RCSC doesn't have enough trained staff to deal with issues that come up. It's a fact of life. Yes, SAC meetings were accessible. Here's what isn't widely known. All of that special equipment had to be transferred from another location and set up every single time. That department is incredibly short staffed. The fact that all of our main meeting spaces are not properly equipped in this day and age is unimaginable. But - it's our reality. It's a scheduling nightmare for the limited space that is properly equipped, and still we run into technical difficulties due to lack availability of technical support staff. It's our reality. We're all doing what we can.
     
  8. John Fast

    John Fast Well-Known Member

    Linda,

    When Jean arranged for the recording of the SAC meeting it was not laborious or time consuming. The meeting was broadcast live via teams. I am really shocked that you would say otherwise. You were not even there!

    John Fast
     
  9. FYI

    FYI Well-Known Member

    When is it?
     
  10. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    What editing? Do they edit things out they don't want seen by the members? If so all the more reason for live meetings then.
     
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  11. Linda McIntyre

    Linda McIntyre Well-Known Member


    John - I was actually there for several meeting. And before I would make such a statement, I would hope you know that I would have some knowledge or background before I make such such comments. Maybe my sources lied to me or misrepresented the current situation? I had spoken with Teresa on numerous occasions about technology concerns before she left RCSC. I asked questions specifically about the lack of technology in various facilities - why it was so difficult to have committee meetings recorded, especially in light of how well SAC was being handled, etc. She was obviously the best resource. My comments reflect her discussions with me. My recollection is that the Tech department only has only two (maybe three) systems to take out to all of the various centers from their main center, coupled with a very limited staff. You know how many meetings and activities are held and/or overlap on a daily or weekly basis, and also our technology struggles. You also know I'm on the Finance Committee and part of discussions about matters relative to staffing deficiencies and facility weaknesses. I'm disappointed that you think I'm that ill-informed or I would intentionally try to misinformed members.
     
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  12. Tom Trepanier

    Tom Trepanier Well-Known Member

    I only ask the BOD consider videotaping the two committees mentioned earlier.
     
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  13. eyesopen

    eyesopen Well-Known Member

    Clarification for some…Editing, post production. Title graphics, canned recorded use warnings, dropping actual meeting in, etc. Posting to YouTube in real time.)
     
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  14. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    Thank you. I would think with lack of trust the members have right now that I will not be the only person who would like an explanation of the word edit in this context.

    edited; editing; edits
    transitive verb
    a: to prepare (something, such as literary material) for publication or public presentation
    edit a manuscript
    b: to assemble (something, such as a moving picture or tape recording) by cutting and rearranging
    edit a film
    c: to alter, adapt, or refine especially to bring about conformity to a standard or to suit a particular purpose
    carefully edited the speech

    Source
    Merriam-Webster
    Publishing company

    Merriam-Webster, Incorporated is an American company that publishes reference books and is mostly known for its dictionaries. It is the oldest dictionary publisher in the United States. In 1831, George and Charles Merriam founded the company as G & C Merriam Co. in Springfield, Massachusetts.
     
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  15. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    Forsooth, the Oxford Old English Dictionary goes back more than 150 years and contains words going back to the 11th Century. I believe Samuel Johnson was the first to issue a dictionary. Check out his house in London, very illuminating.
     
  16. John Fast

    John Fast Well-Known Member

    It came to my attention more than once Kat Fimmel had ordered video recordings to be edited. I think this is a clear ethics violation.
     
  17. John Fast

    John Fast Well-Known Member

    Linda, Thank you for letting me know what you believe. Yes, I am aware you are on the Finance Committee as I recommended you for the assignment. When Jean mentioned to me that all SAC meetings should be recorded, I was admittedly reluctant, and I can understand why you might be reluctant now. Hiring a contractor to tape the meetings is dirt cheap. I became aware of a joint meeting between F&B and LRPC that is not posted anywhere and was postponed to sometime in the future. Can you let the rest of us know when that meeting has been rescheduled to.
     
  18. Josie P

    Josie P Well-Known Member

    Thank you. Whatever I say/ask will be demonized. Asking what edit meant was a legit question..........for some, but in the grand scheme of things it really doesn't matter.
     
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  19. eyesopen

    eyesopen Well-Known Member

    Only aware of the one time Kat wanted something removed. That was corrected with directive that whatever happens at board meetings must be exactly captured for viewers of the YouTube video to experience what attendees did.

    The other was a so called “technical issue” recording an Annual Membership Meeting that mysteriously didn’t capture a chunk of the meeting.
     
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  20. BPearson

    BPearson Well-Known Member

    How about the rest of the story. The incident (singular) in question was during a session with board members where one of the board members said he was offended by what the president said (it was a joke that was spot on funny, but he claimed he was insulted). The president (Kat) said they could edit it out and several board members objected and it was immediately changed and left in. I know all of this because i was asked to post a commentary on the Advocates page written by the offended board member where he went into great detail. I didn't post it, i wasn't in the room to verify it happening.

    And of course the rest of the rest of the story is the letter was posted in the Independent and if memory serves me addressed at one of the board meetings following the event. As far as the suggestion it happened more than once, i'm all ears.
     
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