URGENT UPDATE ON SUN CITY LIBRARIES

UPDATE: The Exchange today!
Monday, April 8, 2024

Meeting delayed until 9:20am due to seating issues!

Unofficially, about 800 in attendance, overflow areas of auditorium opened to accommodate!

Fifty-one Member voices heard!

✍️ Recap soon. Please share yours, too!

️Video will post here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdLy0Uy9sKWCJNLz37tn5ug

 

100% agree Larry. I don't know how anyone could not agree when all we have heard for years is things started to get bad in 2006 and look where we are at now??? 18 long years. I said before it's the definition of insanity on steroids. The powers that be recommend members they want appointed to the board. the loyal followers vote for them and surprise! Yup, the good old boys. We get more of the same. I started voting for whoever was not on "the list" a while ago. The events of the past few years have clouded the wonderful memories I have of my home that go back to 1980. Yeah, I know, not a fan of purple prose so onward to better times! ☮️

 

At least we met the quorum today, too bad not a member meeting. Bummer

 

From FrIends of Sun Cities Libraries
SAVE OUR SUN CITY LIBRARIES

UPDATE 4/8/2024
WOW! You showed up to the Exchange Meeting in droves this morning.
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!
The crowd (well over 1,000) was standing room only. The testimonies were heartfelt. Again, it was UNPRECEDENTED!
Please know, that we are NOT standing down. We are STANDING BY while we see how the lease negotiations progress. If we don't see our libraries secure, we will not stop, and we have more options up our sleeve.
WATCH THIS SPACE
And thank you again for showing the world your support for our libraries.
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https://saveoursuncitylibraries.weebly.com/

 

Time to be serious now, sort of. Questions that might have been answered in my absence (doc appointment) or need to be answered or to be pondered.

1. When was the Board andvised about the potential closing of the libraries in relation to being notified of the lease negotiations?
2. Why is Bell potentially saved from closing and Fairway is not?
3. If the Board has a big thick binder of data on Fairway (I was in the front row and saw Karen McAdams binder which she used as a prop) what are we doing? More study for more data to relate to a cost/benefit analysis. This is business school BS.
4. Why does this Fairway need more study and not Bell? This outcome is starting to sound like an old episode of The Lone Ranger, you will get a fair trial before we hang you Butch Cavendish. Closing sounds preordained, just need the facts to make it happen. When will we find out?
5. How is the vacated space to be utilized, certainly not for my Templar Knight rubber long sword practice area, so for what? Where there any plans prior the beginning of this fiasco? Also, stop with the PR drafted apologies, I heard more sincere apologies from the January 6 Proud Boys insurrectionists.

Sorry if I offended anyone, but libraries are very personal to me having spend so much time in them researching and reading.

 

Been hearing to many apologies and excuses. Would love to hear and read more responsibility, accountability, and lastly, transparency.

 

Most of your questions answered when you view the video that will post here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdLy0Uy9sKWCJNLz37tn5ug

The remaining are being discussed by the board in their traditional post Exchange meeting on that’s on Wednesday.

Karen said the information would be distributed by email blasts as they have issued statements previously.

 

So this unpublicized meeting is now cancelled. Crazy!

 

An attendance of 800 - 1000 on this Sun City libraries crisis confirms that all those years we had the impossible 1250 quorum for the Annual Membership Meeting was by design!

What were those boards afraid off??

 

Tom, sorry, I just work here. I posted as soon as I found out. I may not be well loved(!) but I try to keep the members informed as soon as I know.

Eyes Open, the Board previously had a quorum of 100 which was ripe for abuse. The Board sought a legal opinion from outside counsel and was subsequently advised that according to State law a quorum was to be 10% of the members. That figure was about 3,500 more or less. The Board reasonably thought the figure was high and settled on 1,250. The bylaws committee tackled this problem for several meetings gaining a consensus of 800. The main bone of contention revolved around proxies which personally I dislike, fine for Microsoft, not for RCSC. Most members don’t understand the implication of proxies in the hands of a few with potentially a less than desirable agenda. That is what worried me the most and if the proxies were general or specific and were the collectors adequately informing the signatory of the difference. Since proxies were mentioned in the Articles of Incorporation I had to go along on this point. We agreed on number of proxies per person and the 800 figure. Not good enough for the masses who want a quorum of 500. The quorum eventually reduced to that figure, had a members meeting with more than enough with a ton of proxies and the voting was disastrous. Unpleasant evening. Last member meeting had 197 people including proxies. That’s a bust. My earlier comment was me being me, snarky and I love irony.
There you go.

 

Mutiny on the Bounty?

 

Thanks Dave for info. Would you be open to asking the powers to be to videotape this particular meeting if it happens?

 

Here's irony for you Dave, in our history, that quorum of 100 never cased a ripple of a problem. What it did do, along with a half dozen other safeguards was keep the board and management from doing dumb things. Obviously the last meeting having only 197 was a pretty good indication of how the members felt. As a history buff, you need to pay more attention to what actually happens, especially in Sun City.

 

Sun City Independent libraries Exchange meeting article is online, Subscriber Exclusive:
https://www.yourvalley.net/sun-city...dents-protest-library-closure-proposal,489581

 

Bill, I am grateful you recognize your opinions are not facts. I hope you can transition from the past to the present. Oh darn, you are not writing everything about me - I am crushed! OK I'm over it. (my version of humor)

 

We have many empty office and buildings around in Sun City. I'm not sure why the MCLibraries within a time frame, cannot find a new space within Sun City to build out a new library. I mean that is the solution. You go and find a new home. I am thinking right now about the former Tuesday Morning store that sits at 99th and Bell. You can find many many new places for them to go around here. The county needs to plan and execute there own solution. It is obvious that our new GM is thinking he needs the space to fufill all of the many requests of clubs in here. What else would it be? If you truly follow these RCSC meetings, it is one request and want after the next. It never ends around here.

 

I really don't think this blanket statement about no one taking pride in their home is fair Eileen. Things are changing, like the cost of living. The same groceries I paid $75 for a few years ago cost me $175 now. I am one of the folks here in Sun City living below the poverty level. I am happy you are not. And Bill this is not whining, it's a fact. Consumer inflation rates are at an all time high. My yard is weed free. I may not have shrubs and landscaping (that costs money to maintain), but it's neat and clean. Phase 1 does not look as nice as it used to, I agree. I don't think it has anything to do with what you are saying, and has everything to do with what folks can afford. Words like dumpy, neglected, no one taking pride are not helping here, they are shaming. I could go on with facts about the 12 couples (aunts and uncles and parents) and why they moved here in the 70's however I am not in the mood to be verbally abused this am. Let's just say that if a person has the means to afford Paradise Valley would they choose Sun City?

 

Eileen in no way is this directed at you personally. It's a statement from one of the most famous movies of all time. It's the way I feel along with most friends and neighbors. This place makes me tired. I have been accused of so many things by people who don't even know what I look like. I have been coming to this home since 1980. I held my dad's hand in this home when he died. I held my mom's hand in this home when she died. And now, "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn"!