Bylaw Committee Suggestions

Discussion in 'Sun City General Discussions' started by John Fast, Mar 15, 2025.

  1. John Fast

    John Fast Well-Known Member

    Dave, Sorry not playing your game. You know well what was meant and obviously you are only interested in twisting meanings. If you demonstrate you are capable of having an adult conversation on the merits of the subject I am happy to oblige. John
     
  2. Geoffrey de Villehardouin

    Geoffrey de Villehardouin Well-Known Member

    John,
    I am not “playing a game” as you put it. I think laterally, that is if this specific phrase is mentioned here and it is in reference specifically mentioned in another document, I believe it should be mentioned as such not as a sort of kinda reference that everyone should understand.

    The big compliant about the bylaws is that they are difficult to read and understand. Picture you are an average member who is reviewing your motion and then goes to the BP 16 and cannot find that reference, how does that make the bylaws easier to read when you say, well I was only using a euphemism?

    No John, I’m not playing a game, I take this very seriously, I am very literal and I want the members to understand the documents that govern them. Who’s the adult in the room now?
     
  3. CMartinez

    CMartinez Well-Known Member

    I, for one, feel the bantering around of the personal issues and grievances has more than been played out. Get angry with me if you choose, but the topic is Bylaw Committee Suggestions, not who said or did what at some other time in the past. We are adults who should be able to have conversations capable of discussing a topic without it rehashing old ills and grievances that are dead issues. What ever happened on a now defunct committee is no longer relevant to what is happening today.
    I know I will probably get roasted for saying what I did, but either make the references towards the present and relevant or please find a way to get past whatever you think were wrongs done and please move on. What happened in the past can’t be changed only one’s mindset can be. Please.
     
  4. FYI

    FYI Well-Known Member

    Yeah, but aren't we suppose to learn from the past?

    When you have a committee with just about as many Directors as community Members, and for some of those Members this their second bite of the apple, what can we, or should, we expect?

    Let's just say I'm not too optimistic. I hope I'm wrong.

    Just my opinion.
     
    Last edited: May 1, 2025 at 7:56 PM
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  5. CMartinez

    CMartinez Well-Known Member

    I agree that the origination and the makeup may not be as expected, but do we also demean its value by tying poor expectations because of the members and directors? This is how the board chose to move forward. We, the members, have no additional input as how the current process is structured. I feel we now need to wait and see the outcome, then there will be room for criticism, if warranted, and reconciliation when possible. Not trying to be cynical, just being aware of where we are in this situation currently. Thank you for the feedback FYI
     
  6. CMartinez

    CMartinez Well-Known Member

    Except for Dave asking for Tom’s notes, we, the members, have no further say in the matter going forward. Sad state of affairs, but the truth. My concern is around the statements made in the posts that, to me, seem caustic. In no way am I suggesting anything said was not warranted or was untrue. I apologize for feeling that the thread got too personal at times. I will not speak to this again. Please pardon my intrusion.
     

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